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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    Why? It's a classic! I have it and it isn't one of my favourites, but I don't see what is so bad about it.

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    As I recall it was more like a R-rated monster movie than an opera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    That production looks crueler to the audience than to the horse. He comes on at 1:51:18 and just stands there looking indifferent for a few minutes. Horses work a lot harder than that on farms and in movies.
    There's a few musicals that require animals, for instance, Annie and Wizard of Oz.

    There are plenty of 'animals' in musicals, but they're not usually PLAYED by an animal:

    Iago in Aladdin
    Milky White in Into the Woods
    Snoopy in You're a Good Man Charlie Brown
    Nana in Peter Pan
    Cats in Cats
    The entire jungle in Lion King

    The inclusion of a horse here IS not necessary at all.

    On a side note, I did see a children's production of Pippi Longstocking that had a real goat onstage.

    For you non-farmers, there are . . . 'procedures' that are performed on young male goats - that is, they are castrated. One of the methods the "Elastrator Method" is done the same way a skin tag is removed . . . the blood supply to the testes is cut off using a heavy rubber band or ring and a toxin is injected - eventually the testes die and fall off bloodlessly.

    And . . . in this case, it was during a performance.

    Weren't expecting THAT were you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pianozach View Post
    There's a few musicals that require animals, for instance, Annie and Wizard of Oz.

    There are plenty of 'animals' in musicals, but they're not usually PLAYED by an animal:

    Iago in Aladdin
    Milky White in Into the Woods
    Snoopy in You're a Good Man Charlie Brown
    Nana in Peter Pan
    Cats in Cats
    The entire jungle in Lion King

    The inclusion of a horse here IS not necessary at all.

    On a side note, I did see a children's production of Pippi Longstocking that had a real goat onstage.

    For you non-farmers, there are . . . 'procedures' that are performed on young male goats - that is, they are castrated. One of the methods the "Elastrator Method" is done the same way a skin tag is removed . . . the blood supply to the testes is cut off using a heavy rubber band or ring and a toxin is injected - eventually the testes die and fall off bloodlessly.

    And . . . in this case, it was during a performance.

    Weren't expecting THAT were you?
    Gee... Can't thank you enough...

    The LePage production of Gotterdammerung at the Met has an artificial horse that moves its head. The characters show it affection, and amazingly it's really charming rather than silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    Great as a sound recording, but visually pretty awful:
    That's puttying it mildly, it's horrible.
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    /\ Was that filmed by an audience member? The camera movement is nauseating, and the sound seems distant.
    Last edited by adriesba; Apr-01-2020 at 05:00.

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    The staging looks like a dark doctor's office waiting room.

    At about 1:08:00, there is a ziplock bag... Ugh.

    At about 1:45:49, they strip a guy down to his underwear...

    Oh my word, who could watch this garbage? Or make this production for that matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriesba View Post
    /\ Was that filmed by an audience member? The camera movement is nauseating, and the sound seems distant.
    Oh wow, I did not realize that is NOT the DVD I just watched. Everything looks the same but all the singers are different except for Gruberova. Here is the correct performance as on the DVD I watched (that is young soon-to-be-king James holding her back at 1:43):
    Last edited by SixFootScowl; Apr-01-2020 at 05:12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    Oh wow, I did not realize that is NOT the DVD I just watched. Everything looks the same but all the singers are different except for Gruberova. Here is the correct performance as on the DVD I watched (that is young soon-to-be-king James holding her back at 1:43):
    Even worse, voice decline .......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    Even worse, voice decline .......
    True. The singing is bad on top of that awful staging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriesba View Post
    True. The singing is bad on top of that awful staging.
    Unfortunately, Mme. Gruberova was in serious stimme decline for so many years and there was never, in my opinion, much kunst to go by to make her performances attractive. Gruberova's Norma anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VitellioScarpia View Post
    Unfortunately, Mme. Gruberova was in serious stimme decline for so many years and there was never, in my opinion, much kunst to go by to make her performances attractive. Gruberova's Norma anyone?
    I was very lucky, I got a Linda di Chamonix in the mid nineties where she was just about still worth hearing. It was a very enjoyable performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    I was very lucky, I got a Linda di Chamonix in the mid nineties where she was just about still worth hearing. It was a very enjoyable performance.

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    Green with envy here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixFootScowl View Post
    Great as a sound recording, but visually pretty awful:
    I've had experience in filming at university. And considering the lightning, movement quality and even the SQ, the recording of this performance is formidable for me (for someone sitting at the audience and holding a camera with only one hand). Of course, easy to mistake for a professional DVD recording.
    Last edited by Granate; May-18-2020 at 16:30.
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