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    Many films use classical music as their score, Apocalypse Now, The Social Network, Clockwork Orange or 2001... Disney's Fantasia produces a whole 'music video' for classical pieces if you wish...

    Do you guys have a problem with filmmakers taking classical pieces and arranging them into a new context? Or do you think it holds the chance to reach a broader audience and get them to recognize it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenWo View Post
    Or do you think it holds the chance to reach a broader audience and get them to recognize it?
    Yep. I like that.

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    It's a double-edged sword. Barber's Adagio has been transformed from the middle movement of a string quartet into a symbol for the passing of Rosevelt and JFK, then introduced to a new generation through Platoon as a symbol of mourning for that generation. On the other hand, Bugs Bunny has ruined the Hungarian Dances forever.

    So it depends if the inclusion ennobles the piece or trivializes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenWo View Post
    Do you guys have a problem with filmmakers taking classical pieces and arranging them into a new context? Or do you think it holds the chance to reach a broader audience and get them to recognize it?
    I do actually. Even if it's great music to listen to, film scores need to be contextual, they serve a purpose in each scene. And simply inserting part of a classical work in it's place is not as strong as having a film composer write a score to serve the film scene by scene. And also with a score it's easier to have leitmotif that subconsciously cue the audience emotionally and intellectually as to what to expect.

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    It is usually certainly better to compose a new score for a new film, but on the other hand, perhaps the strongest musical moment I have ever witnessed in a film is in Bresson's "A Man Escaped", where just a tiny excerpt from Mozart's Mass in C Minor is used in a way that's nothing sort of genious.
    Wäre das Faktum wahr, – wäre der außerordentliche Fall wirklich eingetreten, daß die politische Gesetzgebung der Vernunft übertragen, der Mensch als Selbstzweck respektiert und behandelt, das Gesetz auf den Thron erhoben, und wahre Freiheit zur Grundlage des Staatsgebäudes gemacht worden, so wollte ich auf ewig von den Musen Abschied nehmen, und dem herrlichsten aller Kunstwerke, der Monarchie der Vernunft, alle meine Thätigkeit widmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxfeeder View Post
    So it depends if the inclusion ennobles the piece or trivializes it.
    But who decides that? Many people probably only know the Hungarian Dance because of Bugs Bunny. The question is: Do they need to know it's Brahms or is it enough that they have heard the piece and can enjoy it in one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenWo View Post
    Do you guys have a problem with filmmakers taking classical pieces and arranging them into a new context? Or do you think it holds the chance to reach a broader audience and get them to recognize it?
    Trouble is, most people have no idea they're listening to classical music and so they still think they don't like it.

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    Check out some of Terence Malick's films.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JenWo View Post
    But who decides that? Many people probably only know the Hungarian Dance because of Bugs Bunny. The question is: Do they need to know it's Brahms or is it enough that they have heard the piece and can enjoy it in one way or the other.
    If it leads to enjoyment, I have no problem with it. When it so cheapens the piece that people don't take it seriously, it bothers me.

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    what kind of monocle wearing **** would have a problem with it.

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    i think classical in movies is something that should be very much embraced

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    There's this movie called Violent Cop that uses an electronic version of Satie's Gnossiene no. 1 as its main theme. The film's about a cop that uses violence. Check it out.
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    Bach's Brandenburg concerto 1046 (if i'm not mistaken) is played during the first party scene in Die Hard.
    Beethoven 135 SQ first movements first notes are played in Godard's 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her.

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    Hey Friends I like to listen classical music most..........I like that films also in which we can listen Classical type of music.........
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    Some directors really know how to use it and place it in such sections of the film that one has very little choice but to sit there and soak it up. Others don't possess such skills and that is when you may as well have used anything.

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