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    New York Times has an article about Mahler's three years in New York.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/18/op...nes&emc=tha212

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    "What did a typical Mahler concert sound like? We will never know."
    And in fact, there are no recordings with Mahler conducting, which makes me very sad. I have read so much about his conducting and really wish I could hear even one of his interpretations.
    (You can, however, hear him play piano. Some piano rolls of him playing his own songs have been recorded.)

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    I'd give my left head to hear his 1892 Tristan that amazed Ralph Vauvaltahgan Williams so much, as legend says.

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    A short 'n sweet reader's digest version of happenings. What thankfully is not mentioned, are the decades of NYPO wasteland since Lenny. Some exception with Boulez, but Pierre was much like Gustav in one regard--My Time Will Come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    A short 'n sweet reader's digest version of happenings. What thankfully is not mentioned, are the decades of NYPO wasteland since Lenny. Some exception with Boulez, but Pierre was much like Gustav in one regard--My Time Will Come.
    I'm a newbie here. I couldn't disagree more. I heard the NYPO last week in the Musikverein, Vienna, conducted by Alan Gilbert. They sounded simply superb, and played Beethoven's Symphony No. 3. Not a dry eye in the house!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountenanceAnglaise View Post
    I'm a newbie here. I couldn't disagree more. I heard the NYPO last week in the Musikverein, Vienna, conducted by Alan Gilbert. They sounded simply superb, and played Beethoven's Symphony No. 3. Not a dry eye in the house!
    Okay, we're on notice of a possible new superb era beginning last week. It's too bad they couldn't have started it at home...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/ar...en-review.html
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    As far as I know, NYPO visited Norh Korea during Lorin Maazel tenure. Maybe, Gilbert will come to Moscow? We are better than North Korea and we have an excellent hall of the Conservatory, built in 1901.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meaghan View Post
    "What did a typical Mahler concert sound like? We will never know."
    And in fact, there are no recordings with Mahler conducting, which makes me very sad. I have read so much about his conducting and really wish I could hear even one of his interpretations.
    (You can, however, hear him play piano. Some piano rolls of him playing his own songs have been recorded.)
    Here is an account of Rachmaninoff recounting his experience with Mahler when they collaborated with the NYP in 1910 (this would have been the second ever performance of Rach 3, January 16, 1910):
    http://www.ashevillesymphony.org/con...am%20Notes.pdf

    The original concert line-up included a Mahler arrangement of Bach orchestral suite material (recorded a few years back by Chailly and the Concertgebouw, filler for his Mahler 3rd Symphony release).

    This was the complete programme:

    16 January 1910

    New York Philharmonic
    Gustav Mahler, conductor
    Sergei Rachmaninov, piano

    Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto No. 3
    Bach: Suite (arr. Mahler)
    Wagner: “Prelude and Liebestod” from Tristan & Isolde
    Smetana: Bartered Bride Overture

    Wish I'd been there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by itywltmt View Post
    Here is an account of Rachmaninoff recounting his experience with Mahler when they collaborated with the NYP in 1910 (this would have been the second (EDIT: Thisrd!) ever performance of Rach 3, January 16, 1910):

    The original concert line-up included a Mahler arrangement of Bach orchestral suite material (recorded a few years back by Chailly and the Concertgebouw, filler for his Mahler 3rd Symphony release).

    This was the complete programme:

    16 January 1910

    New York Philharmonic
    Gustav Mahler, conductor
    Sergei Rachmaninov, piano

    Rachmaninov: Piano Concerto No. 3
    Bach: Suite (arr. Mahler)
    Wagner: “Prelude and Liebestod” from Tristan & Isolde
    Smetana: Bartered Bride Overture

    Wish I'd been there...
    On my blog this week, a YouTube re-creation of that memorable concert:

    http://www.talkclassical.com/blogs/i...istory-16.html
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    Check the New York Philharmonic digital archives to see the programs that Mahler conducted: https://archives.nyphil.org
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meaghan View Post
    (You can, however, hear him play piano. Some piano rolls of him playing his own songs have been recorded.)
    There is a piano roll version of Mahler playing the first mvt of Sym #5 on piano...very interesting - not surprisingly, sounds very much like what we hear from Walter, Solti, Abbado etc...

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