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    I recently decided to explore opera chronologically and by region. I've begun reading Grout and Wiegel-Williams Fourth Edition of A Short History of Opera. As I read it I want to go back further and further in time, but I have to set a limit. For the moment, the earliest piece I would like to listen to is Andrei Gabrieli's choruses for the 16th century performance of Sophocle's Oedipus.

    You probably are all familiar with this music and production, but just in case you aren't. Here is a review of the performance from the NYTimes, 1937 (If the link doesn't work for you, let me know and I will see if I can copy and paste the text).

    https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/tim.../468904462.pdf


    1. Do we have a thread that covers the precursors of "Italian" opera? Something that would include this work by Andrei Gabrieli or that would go even further back in time?


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    Why didn't Bach write any operas?
    "Life is too short to spend it wandering in the barren Sahara of musical trash."
    --Sergei Vasilyevich Rachmaninoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    Why didn't Bach write any operas?
    I give up, why?
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    ^^^Fritzi, you keep posting stuff right after my posts! What's up with that? Plz send me a PM rather than respond after my opera precursor post. TYVM
    Last edited by JosefinaHW; May-27-2019 at 00:46.


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    I recently decided to explore opera chronologically and by region. I've begun reading Grout and Wiegel-Williams Fourth Edition of A Short History of Opera. As I read it I want to go back further and further in time, but I have to set a limit. For the moment, the earliest piece I would like to listen to is Andrei Gabrieli's choruses for the 16th century performance of Sophocle's Oedipus.

    You probably are all familiar with this music and production, but just in case you aren't. Here is a review of the performance from the NYTimes, 1937 (If the link doesn't work for you, let me know and I will see if I can copy and paste the text).

    https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/tim.../468904462.pdf


    1. Do we have a thread that covers the precursors of "Italian" opera? Something that would include this work by Andrei Gabrieli or that would go even further back in time?


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    I just got Tristan und Isolde by Barenboim, Berlin PO, on Teldec, marked $7.99 and 40% off. Did I do good?

    Wagner Tristan Barenboim 200 dpi .jpg

    Josefina, the link works, but you have to be a subscriber to read the article.
    Last edited by millionrainbows; Jul-12-2019 at 13:39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    I just got Tristan und Isolde by Barenboim, Berlin PO, on Teldec, marked $7.99 and 40% off. Did I do good?
    You did great! That is one of the best Tristan recordings! Best price I am seeing online is a little over $8 shipped for used VG.
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    Ah **** Sarah Connolly has breast cancer

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    I just found this free Harvard course on 19th century opera: "19th-Century Opera: Meyerbeer, Wagner, & Verdi."

    https://www.edx.org/course/19th-cent...wagner-verdi-2

    There's also another on 18th century opera: "18th-Century Opera: Handel & Mozart."

    https://www.edx.org/course/18th-cent...andel-mozart-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    Why didn't Bach write any operas?
    Bach wrote music for the church mainly in which operas were not relevant. If you want to hear his nearest thing to opera try the secular Coffee Cantata

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Bach wrote music for the church mainly in which operas were not relevant. If you want to hear his nearest thing to opera try the secular Coffee Cantata
    If you want to hear Bach's nearest thing to opera, try his Matthew's, John's or even Markus' Passions. Rattle/Sellars even gave a staged version of the two main ones, totally unnecessary IMO, but anyhow:
    Berlin-Matthew-Overall-595.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeSaunders View Post
    Ah **** Sarah Connolly has breast cancer
    That's upsetting to hear. I wish her and her family well.
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    How does one pronounce "Mirella Freni"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scopitone View Post
    How does one pronounce "Mirella Freni"?
    Find her in a live performance on You Tube where the host announces her and hope they pronounce it correctly.
    "Life is too short to spend it wandering in the barren Sahara of musical trash."
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