View Poll Results: What's the most important value/asset for you?

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  • Money

    2 4.00%
  • Love (includes compassion, family, relationships)

    17 34.00%
  • Pleasure (includes sex, music, food, drinks, drugs, whatever rocks your boat)

    3 6.00%
  • Power (includes politics, work, hierarchy, social importance, etc)

    0 0%
  • Religion (includes spirituality)

    6 12.00%
  • Freedom

    6 12.00%
  • Health

    4 8.00%
  • Other (please specify in post)

    12 24.00%
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    Default Most important values

    What is yours? Please explain.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    What about the pursuit of knowledge? Science, philosophy, history, etc. That's mine. Music close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravellian View Post
    What about the pursuit of knowledge? Science, philosophy, history, etc. That's mine. Music close second.
    Darn. Once a poll is posted, it can't be changed (except by an administrator). I forgot this one. I guess it will have to be included in "other." Or, I'd say you do it for pleasure, no? For your own enjoyment? Because if you do it for some sort of activism or in the hope of changing society, then it would be power.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    I always find these questions a little difficult.

    Money? No. I tend to hoard it rather than spend it, so I don't notice it much.
    Pleasure? Not really. Though if I interpret it as 'emotions', or deriving pleasure from emotions (artistic expression etc.), then this would be my second choice.
    Power? I'm a social recluse, and this kind of thing has never interested me.
    Religion? None!
    Freedom? I looooove my freedom, of course, but I take it as much for granted as the next first world university student.
    Health? I'm never in good health any more!

    So the one I've left until last is love. I almost hate myself for choosing it, because the Polednice of 1 year ago would certainly not have stood for it! I'd have gone straight for anything with regards to emotional expression, which is still the most important thing in my life, but since I fell in love a little while ago I've just become the soppiest, most loathsome ******* imaginable.

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    I'm taking the very controversial stance of picking money, while when I was younger I'd have picked love or pleasure.
    I know my choice won't be popular.
    But I'm getting old and cynical, and I'm starting to realize that money does buy security (freedom), and pleasure, and power, and pays for health maintenance, it can be used for compassion (charity)... it doesn't buy love, but I got love. One can have love regardless of how much money one has... but love without money often goes sour as people struggle and struggle and fight and fall apart.
    I think youngsters often underestimate the value of money.
    It is, after all, what moves the world.
    People look at it with a very negative gaze.
    It is not politically correct to say that money is important.
    But as you get older, you realize how pervasive and fundamental it is.

    So yes, yell at me, call me names, lower your opinion of me if you will, but I'm being bold enough to pick money.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    I chose freedom. I am a humanist, which colors the value I place on freedom.
    I spent a fortune on deodorant before I realized that people don't like me anyway.

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    This is really difficult. I've managed to narrow it down to three, but i'm still trying to decide!

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    Love - Money - Health. Pick 2.

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    "Power is the morality of men who stand out from the rest, and it is also mine." - Beethoven

    In little abstract, personal ways. I'm not self-loathing enough to think that I am my possessions and the money in my pocket.
    People who hide are afraid!

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    I don't have a "most important" value, as I believe all of the above values are needed together. It's impossible to be truly happy with only one or two of those values realized (unless you're a monk/nun, in which case I don't think you'd be replying to an Internet poll). Without one, you can't really enjoy the others. Without freedom, you can't enjoy religion, money, love...; without pleasure, you can't enjoy anything at all...; without power, you can't enjoy freedom and you're unlikely to enjoy love or religion; without money, you can't afford to enjoy pleasure, power, health, or freedom... You see what I mean?

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    "Pleasure" is an interesting one. Music is very very valuable to me. But the thing is, everything makes clearer sense through the Christian worldview. With God, music is so much more powerful, as well as all other arts. Therefore, my spirituality is top priority, because it opens up everything else to greater, fuller enjoyment.
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    Oh, I disgust myself--I picked love. Cheesy as heck, but still for me the obvious choice. I'd be even more lost without my family than I'd be without music.

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    @ Huilunsoittaja - Since you're religious, do you like sacred (eg. choral) musics? I can't tell from what you've been posting on TC. I ask as I like choral musics - esp. things like masses, motets, oratorios, this stuff - & am interested if that's you're kind of thing as well, just for curiosity (I'm not particularly religious, btw, but I do like the spiritual aspects of music (in general) as you discuss)...
    Genuine ersatz classical listener since 1981.

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    Hedonism anyone?
    We all do things that ultimately lead to pleasure for ourself and avoid those that cause pain to us.
    Money, Love, Health and such are only mere means to attain pleasure or cause pain.

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    Well people say money can't buy happiness, but I disagree. If you get into a car crash and become severely injured, you're going to be pretty happy you have money to pay for those hospital bills

    If you live with your boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband/whatever but you guys have bills up the hooha to pay, you're not gonna be happy, you're gonna be stressed. But if you got money, you can pay all your bills and buy your happiness back.

    If you're sad because the last recording of a rare piece of music goes out of stock (AMAZON) just think, if you had money, you could have bought that rare piece of music and been happy

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