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    Looking for something epic type of symphonies, big orchestration and beautiful melodies and maybe something really sad stuff aswell - but i don't like atonal pieces. I'm a newbie with classical music, so i apologize for my stupid questions...

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    There must be quite a lot - Mahler - anything but the 4th is big - and the 10th was a mess-up concocted by Deryck Cooke from unfinished sketches, except the beautiful first movement and the scherzo - so avoid that.

    Then there's Tchaikowsky's 5th and 6th - the 5th has a hauntingly beautiful slow movement. The 6th has a mix of movements including an uproarous scherzo that comes off dazzlingly in Karajan's hands on the old EMI recording. If you spot that recording cheap, don't be afraid to buy it - brilliant!

    For modern symphonies and big orchestration, try Havergal Brian's Gothic Symphony or Elgar's No.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenn79 View Post
    Looking for something epic type of symphonies, big orchestration and beautiful melodies and maybe something really sad stuff aswell - but i don't like atonal pieces.
    That is a pretty broad description, but here are some symphonies that might be what you are looking for:

    Beethoven: Symphony 9
    Mahler: Symphonies 2, 5, 8 and 9 (8 is referred to as "Symphony of a Thousand" but it has vocals throughout, which may not be what you are looking for)
    Tchaikovsky: Symphony 6
    Sibelius: Symphony 2
    (not so "big", but it has beautiful melodies)
    Bruckner: Symphony 7

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    Hi jenn79,

    Rachmaninoff: 2nd and 3rd Symphonies
    Bruckner: 4th and 7th Symphonies
    Brahms: All of his Symphonies
    Richard Strauss: Alpensymphonie
    Tchaikovski: 4th and 6th Symphonies
    Sibelius: Lemminkainen, 6th and 7th Symphonies, Tempest, Tapiola
    Vaughan-Williams: A Sea Symphony
    Shostakovich: 11th and 13th Symphonies, Execution of Stepan Razin

    Hope this will help you in your quest for epic works.

    Regards!

    Giovanni
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    If she wants something epic, why not the Eroica itself? Symphony no. 3 by no other than Beethoven.

    I remember not liking Mahler too much when I was a beginner in classical music... You might want to suggest more easy listening works. I think very good suggestions have been made so far, though.

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    Also try:

    Bruckner's 8th (huge) and 9th
    Sibelius' 1st and Kullervo
    Liszt's Faust Symphony
    Beethoven's 5th and 7th
    Elgar's 1st
    Shostakovich's 7th and 8th
    Dvořák's 9th
    Nielsen's 5th

    Enjoy!
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    Would Berlioz count? I've heard it only a couple of times.
    Symphonie Fantastique - written by a mad man, the story behind the work containing beheading and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opus67 View Post
    Symphonie Fantastique - written by a mad man, the story behind the work containing beheading and stuff.
    Yesss, excellent! The most grotesque and diabolical of all the 19th century symphonies!
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    Hi Jenn!

    I would have to agree with everything everyone has already listed.

    When I first saw the question, the one symphony that really came to mnd, was Shostakovich's 7th Symphony (The Leningrad).

    To me, everything about this symphony is "Epic".

    The history behind it, the passion, the subject matter (WW2, the invasion of Russia by the Nazis, etc.), as well as the actually music, all scream, "EPIC!"
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    So many lists, so many pieces, so confusing!

    Remember, you don't have to listen to all of them at once, take them in a little at a time.

    And thank you for sharing your dazzlingly beautiful avatar with us, easily the best avatar at TalkClassical by a country mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurkikohtaus View Post
    And thank you for sharing your dazzlingly beautiful avatar with us, easily the best avatar at TalkClassical by a country mile.
    Better than two cranes flirting? I don't think so.
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    Who's avatar are you talking about?

    Jenn79's? Or mine?

    If you are talking about Jenn79, then yes, I agree, it's nice to look at a pretty face on this board.

    But I think I have a cool one too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurkikohtaus View Post
    So many lists, so many pieces, so confusing!

    Remember, you don't have to listen to all of them at once, take them in a little at a time.

    And thank you for sharing your dazzlingly beautiful avatar with us, easily the best avatar at TalkClassical by a country mile.
    I'm blushed

    thank you Kurkikohtaus, i'm flattered...
    and Cato, your avatar is cooler than mine - don't worry
    And thanks to everybody, you've been so nice and helped me out a lot!
    -jenn
    Last edited by jenn79; Apr-13-2007 at 17:29.

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    also jenn, you should try out Sains-Saens Organ Symphony. Thats pretty shweet. All of it is rather amazing but if your particularly fond of beatiful, sad melodies, theres a theme in the second half of the first movement about 10 minutes in. Its a rather unusual, not particularly lyrical melody in the strings but it is amazing

    but don't fast forward into it! listen to it all, theres so many good bits like the fugue bit in the third movement, that just made me laugh, i was in hysterics.

    And please, don't take it for granted as just another piece. My orchestra is playing it at the moment and i can tell you that the bassoon part is certainly rather difficult so try to appreciate the pain of the bassoon section in particular when listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giovannimusica View Post
    Rachmaninoff: 2nd and 3rd Symphonies
    I take my hat off. You out-speeded me.

    I would also suggest the whole sets of symphonies by Lyatoshinsky (was Boris his name?).

    Vaughan Williams 7th manages to fit in the definition of epic very well. The wind, the vocals and the snow.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kurkikohtaus
    And thank you for sharing your dazzlingly beautiful avatar with us, easily the best avatar at TalkClassical by a country mile.
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    If you are talking about Jenn79, then yes, I agree, it's nice to look at a pretty face on this board.
    Are you guys flirting?

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