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    Hello, looking for some tragical and sad operas. And maybe some furious aswell (i'm a fan of depressing music hah ) thx!

    -jenn

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    'Carmen', 'Tosca', 'Lucia di Lammermoor', 'Tristan und Isolde' are definite musts for those who like tragic operas!
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    The finale of 'Rigoletto' is heart-breaking. As is the 'Der Rosenkavalier' trio (at least i think so!). 'La Boheme' and 'Otello' are tragic and 'La Traviata' is, too! Ah, the list goes on and on... how many do you need? haha
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    In fact, almost every "opera seria" are tragic. And that's a damn huge part of the opera repertoire.

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    Hi Jenn!

    So, you are a fan of depressing music?

    Well, you are going to love Shostakovich!

    Especially his quartets!

    It's very sad music, penned by a poor chap who lived his life in a Communist Police State, and came pretty close to being shot or sent to a labor camp for his music.

    A sad Opera? Hummm..... let's see, take your pick. I can't think of one with a happy ending.

    Although "La Boheme" has already been mentioned, I'll second the motion, and add that not only is the story sad, but the music that supports the singing, is also very sad and moving. If you don't cry while listening to La Boheme, then your tear ducts are not working.
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    Thanks guys, i really appreciate it and you've already helped me out a lot! And if there's anything more, just reply here or pm me and i know, almost all of the operas i've heard are tragical, so there's hundreds of them out..

    -jenn

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    You will have a lot of fun with Puccini (well... it's not really diversion what you will get, but it will certainly keep you busy)

    La boheme.
    Turandot. The composer died before completing it, and it was initially completed by Alfano; for a much intimate finale, I suggest you to get Berio's conclusion (which is available in DVD in a magnificent fururistic set, including Zefirelli and Gergiev)
    Tosca.
    Madama Butterfly

    For some reason, Puccini tends to recurently kill the prima donna, I warn you.

    Verdi's Aida is also a must. The last scene is musically one of the most pure writtings you will find out there. No big choruses, no heavy orchestration; just two imprisoned lovers.

    But the most tragic ever is, IMO, Andrea Chenier, by Umberto Giordano. There's a very good DVD of this one with Domingo and Tomowa-Sintow, from the Royal Opera House. Two tear sections in this opera are the duet at the end of the 2nd act (Ora soave, sublime ora d'amore"; and the end of the 4th act, "La nostra morte è il trionfo dell'amore"

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    Let's backup my selections with a few mp3.


    Andrea Chenier
    October 15, 1955 - RAI

    Mario Del Monaco
    Antonietta Stella
    Giuseppe Taddei
    Luisa Mandelli
    Ortensia Beggiato
    Fraco Calabrese

    Angelo Questa

    with cue sheets

    http://rapidshare.com/files/22606769...nMDM1.rar.html
    http://rapidshare.com/files/22604477...nMDM2.rar.html

    *********
    La boheme
    Rodolfo: Rolando Villazón
    Mimi: Anna Netrebko
    Marcello: Boaz Daniel
    Schaunard: Thomas Laske
    Parpignol: Kevin Conners
    Sergente: Gerhard Häusler
    Kinderchor des Staatstheaters am Gärtnerplatz
    Chor des Bayerischen Rundfunks; Einstudierung: Udo Mehrpohl
    Symphonie-Orchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks
    Dirigent: Bertrand De Billy
    München, Philharmonie am Gasteig, 14.04.2007

    http://rapidshare.com/files/26047665/01_-_ATTO_I.mp3
    http://rapidshare.com/files/26048619/02_-_ATTO_II.mp3
    http://rapidshare.com/files/26049927/03_-_ATTO_III.mp3
    http://rapidshare.com/files/26051526/04_-_ATTO_IV.mp3
    http://rapidshare.com/files/26051584...nd_Credits.mp3

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    The emotion depends on the singers, also.

    For Instance, I’d suggest Maria Callas in Tosca, or Lucia

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    Daffodylls, apologies in advance for offering a contrary opinion.

    Finding a decent Lucia who sings Bel Canto is gonna be difficult. Callas is no coloratura so if you happen also to like coloratura, Jenn, then avoid her and Sutherland. Great singers in their own way but not specially good for pre-Verdi operas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frasier View Post
    Daffodylls, apologies in advance for offering a contrary opinion.

    Finding a decent Lucia who sings Bel Canto is gonna be difficult. Callas is no coloratura so if you happen also to like coloratura, Jenn, then avoid her and Sutherland. Great singers in their own way but not specially good for pre-Verdi operas.

    I just spoke about emotions.

    As far as Lucia is concerned, i am agree with you that Coloraturas are indeed more suitable for the role. I have already listened such refined performances, but, they didn’t make me shiver a lot. I prefer a singer like Maria Callas, who sang with all her heart and soul. – Nevertheless, I admit that her interpretation was very personal.

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    I'd like to request something in this same post as well...

    Tragic operas, etc...

    But preferably male vocals, with melodies atop backing that, through it's structure, and vocal power, can just make you actually cry...

    Not that I do not like female singers, but I find the sadness through the voice of a man can be much, much more saddening and poweful...For me, anyway.

    Any songs to recommend?

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    Well, talking of songs literally, then I'd recommend Schubert's and Schumann's, sung by Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau or Wolfgang Holzmair. Consider especially the Dichterliebe, op.48 and Liederkreis, op.24 as goes for Schumann, and for Schubert get the Winterreise and some independent songs like D553, D565, D771, D799, D800, D832, D933... much more.

    As for opera airs, try 'Che faro senza Euridice' from Gluck's 'Orpheus and Euridica' (that here is in fact a countertenor, so often the air is sung by mezzosopranos), 'Far away, Palmyra' from Delius' 'Koanga' (sung by Eugene Holmes - a deep, afroamerican voice), 'E lucevan le stelle' from Puccini's 'Tosca, to name but a few.
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    From Handel:
    Saul
    Belshazzar
    Jeptha
    Acis and Galatea
    Hercules
    etc
    etc
    At first, I discovered the wonders of classical music through the marvels of its baroque period and especially those from Mr. Handel, which explain my forum nickname. About 10 years ago, my interest leaned over classical period and Herr Haydn's production. The music bus recently drove me to the early 1800s. Where will it end?

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    Tosca is good

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