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    Default Handel's Messiah

    I just got it a week ago, and I must say, I was quite pleased. What do you guys think?

    Also, should I spend my recently acquired ten dollars on Holst's Planets, or Mahler's 5th? I know I should already have both of them, but I haven't been into classical for an extremely long time.

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    Dude! Handel rules!!!!

    If you like Messiah, may I recomend.....

    Julius Caesar (A wonderful opera! )

    Solomon ( A wonderful Oratorio! )

    I am just begining to really get into this guy's work, and the operas and oratorios that are available is staggering. I plan on buying and exploring a lot more of his work.
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    Handel is God. That is all.
    At first, I discovered the wonders of classical music through the marvels of its baroque period and especially those from Mr. Handel, which explain my forum nickname. About 10 years ago, my interest leaned over classical period and Herr Haydn's production. The music bus recently drove me to the early 1800s. Where will it end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cato View Post
    Solomon ( A wonderful Oratorio! )
    I completely agree. He is somewhat "forgotten". But it is a masterpiece in its own right.
    At first, I discovered the wonders of classical music through the marvels of its baroque period and especially those from Mr. Handel, which explain my forum nickname. About 10 years ago, my interest leaned over classical period and Herr Haydn's production. The music bus recently drove me to the early 1800s. Where will it end?

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    For me, 'Messiah' is one of the best oratorios ever written. Grand, glorius, subtle, pastoral, all of that at once.

    Of course you should get both, but may I suggest you buy the 'Planets' first. They're somewhat more accesible than Mahler and every 'planet' is a musical world for itself (especially 'Mars', 'Venus', 'Saturn' and 'Neptune) while still never exceeding 8-9 mins. duration.
    ''Oh, the String Quartet - oh, the Divine Scratching!''

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    I was wondering with recording of Messiah you bought, because good recordings of Messiah are as rare as Poppies on the Moon. The CD by Pinnock and the English Concert is fantastic.

    I agree Solomon is one of many supreme epics of Handel that have been largely forgotten due to the Bachian cult of the musical 'intelligencia'. I could also mention Saul, Israel in Egypt, and Theodora to name but 3, all supreme epics. Handel's operas are also fantastic, I have recordings of about 27 of them.

    Handel is the KING of opera and oratorio, the King of Baroque for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Corkin View Post
    I was wondering with recording of Messiah you bought, because good recordings of Messiah are as rare as Poppies on the Moon.
    There are many good versions. But since one can play the Messiah following different perpsectives, there is no "universal" Messiah.
    At first, I discovered the wonders of classical music through the marvels of its baroque period and especially those from Mr. Handel, which explain my forum nickname. About 10 years ago, my interest leaned over classical period and Herr Haydn's production. The music bus recently drove me to the early 1800s. Where will it end?

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    I've heard one performed by the Academy of Ancient music (I think?) with period instruments and a boys choir...

    Being a period-instrument-recording fan I thought I'd like it, but I really did NOT. I have no idea why... but it just sounded incredibly dull and lifeless. That, and I hate boys choirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morigan View Post
    I've heard one performed by the Academy of Ancient music (I think?) with period instruments and a boys choir...

    Being a period-instrument-recording fan I thought I'd like it, but I really did NOT. I have no idea why... but it just sounded incredibly dull and lifeless. That, and I hate boys choirs.
    I'm a period instrument fan too, for composers like Beethoven & Handel they are essential. But Messiah is poorly served largely due to the direction, regardless of the instruments. With Pinnock's recording nothing sounds contrived, every number is the hit that it should be.

    For Theodora get the DVD of the famous Glyndebourne production with Christie the OAE and David Daniels amongst other superb vocalists, a miraculous revelation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morigan View Post
    I've heard one performed by the Academy of Ancient music (I think?) with period instruments and a boys choir...

    Being a period-instrument-recording fan I thought I'd like it, but I really did NOT. I have no idea why... but it just sounded incredibly dull and lifeless. That, and I hate boys choirs.
    'Messiah' is so difficult to perform ! boys are not experienced enough.

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    My favorite rendition of Messiah still remains that of Colin Davis w/ the London Symphony Orchestra & Choir.

    While the recording is some 40+ years old, it has never lost any of its charm throughout its subsequent years.

    This was one of the very first classical recordings I purchased. Back then (i.e., the early 1970's) about all you could buy were vinyl 33.33 rpm LPs (Remember them?). Thankfully Philips re-issued this recording in CD format in 1993. What a difference! The CDs brought out much more of the instruments (which were also supposed to be period ones) than the LPs ever did!

    Handel's Solomon and Israel in Egypt would, in my book, both be tied for a close second for his other oratorio masterpieces.
    The only instrument I play is the radio.....and then I just get static!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffodylls View Post
    'Messiah' is so difficult to perform ! boys are not experienced enough.
    It is beyond even most of the adults!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Corkin View Post
    It is beyond even most of the adults!
    How unfair it is! (when it occurs).

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    I absolutely adore it- it's my e-mail address and my ringtone. Lol, well not the whole thing, clearly...I was lucky enough to perform it last year and yes, it was beyond me

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    my favorite 'messiah' is beecham's on rca
    NOT period instrument.

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