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    Default Threads with Personal questions, redundant threads

    Folks, as a housekeeping measure, I suggest that if you have a bunch of personal questions to ask, do it in *one* thread - just lump them all together and say "I'd like to know about you guys, would you be willing to answer the following questions?"

    And also, it's been done. It would be best to recover one of those old threads and add to them, rather than having 4, 5, 6 "new" personal questions threads on the front page.

    Just trying to keep things organized.

    I've noticed a large number of redundant threads later. For example, someone starts a thread about a composer... when there is already an active thread about the composer. Or "post the picture of your pet" when we had the exact same thread a while ago.

    People, before starting something new, do a bit of leg work please; do a search, and see if there is already a thread with the exact same topic; then, just add to it, instead of starting a new one.

    It's not the biggest of deals or sins to start a redundant thread, and when possible one of us in the moderation team may just merge the redundant ones, but if you start by doing the search, it will make everybody's lives easier, and we'll have a less clogged front page.

    Thanks for your cooperation.
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    That's pretty reasonable.

    For example, someone starts a thread about a composer... when there is already an active thread about the composer.
    I think this is because of the broken search function, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by regressivetransphobe View Post
    That's pretty reasonable.
    I think this is because of the broken search function, though.
    True, members complained, and this is what I like to do.

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    In fairness, it is a little difficult to find any previous threads on a given topic because the search feature sucks so much.

    EDIT: Ah yes, the Google approach. Trouble is I always forget about that option!

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    Quote Originally Posted by graaf View Post
    True, members complained, and this is what I like to do.
    That's a pretty good idea, graaf, thanks. It also increases our Google hits, and may indeed solve the problem if more users do it like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almaviva View Post
    Folks, as a housekeeping measure, I suggest that if you have a bunch of personal questions to ask, do it in *one* thread...
    Or don't mention them at all, sweep them under the carpet, like the issue of bullying & singling people out on this forum by one member in particular which I began to discuss on THIS thread but it was locked.

    Way to go. Just put your head in the sand like an emu. I'm for naming and shaming this type of bad behaviour before it gets out of hand. Remember jtech? Oh, you don't Almaviva, as you weren't around then. I just hope that what we have on our hands now is not another jtech...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almaviva View Post
    That's a pretty good idea, graaf, thanks. It also increases our Google hits, and may indeed solve the problem if more users do it like you.
    Glad to be of help.

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    I think it's best to limit yourself to about one thread per week, and not post another one until the previous one's more or less gone, or else been locked. Particularly when it concerns who was better, Bruckner or Brahms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid James View Post
    Or don't mention them at all, sweep them under the carpet, like the issue of bullying & singling people out on this forum by one member in particular which I began to discuss on THIS thread but it was locked.

    Way to go. Just put your head in the sand like an emu. I'm for naming and shaming this type of bad behaviour before it gets out of hand. Remember jtech? Oh, you don't Almaviva, as you weren't around then. I just hope that what we have on our hands now is not another jtech...
    Sid, I'm talking about a different kind of personal question.
    Like I said there on that thread, my advice is that your beef with that particular member should be handled by PMs or the ignore function.
    Other members are not necessarily interested in whatever is going on between the two of you.
    The TOS do call for no personal attacks, so I trust that you, an esteemed member here, will refrain from them.
    That thread was locked because it resulted in a number of personal attacks.
    Better lock it than be forced to issue penalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid James View Post
    Or don't mention them at all, sweep them under the carpet, like the issue of bullying & singling people out on this forum by one member in particular which I began to discuss on THIS thread but it was locked.

    Way to go. Just put your head in the sand like an emu. I'm for naming and shaming this type of bad behaviour before it gets out of hand. Remember jtech? Oh, you don't Almaviva, as you weren't around then. I just hope that what we have on our hands now is not another jtech...
    I think the 'more rope' principle is applied here to a greater degree than in any other moderated forum I have heard of (all data second hand for me). Personally I like the 'one foot over the precipice' effect.

    Hmm. That is not necessarily an example of mixed metaphors.

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    I can understand particular threads if someone wants to know something specific like how many times we can pet our cats before they get bored.

    If we have a "tell me about yourself thread", then it's open to all kinds of mundane information, and a sub-question won't always be noticed. But, yes, if there is a lot of random crappola flooding the forum all at once, then we might as well just set up a pageant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltroll72 View Post
    I think the 'more rope' principle is applied here to a greater degree than in any other moderated forum I have heard of (all data second hand for me). Personally I like the 'one foot over the precipice' effect.

    Hmm. That is not necessarily an example of mixed metaphors.

    Hilltroll, if you have suggestions or criticism about my moderating style, do send them to me (best done by PM) and I'll be happy to try and respond to the feedback, including, by implementing changes to my ways, if warranted.
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    I just like to speak my mind, I don't like to self-censor. That's what happened on another forum, so I got out of there. Me discussing certain things there that weren't considered "kosher" by these people - call them "highbrows" or whatever label you want - was beyond the pale. These people have a very covert way of operating & they want to force everyone to be "under the radar" like them. Well, I'm not like that, I like to be direct. Interestingly, not only myself, but also members some guy, Argus, regressivetransophobe have similarly garnered the disapproval of this member, for reasons good or bad. The main reason, of course, is that we are all not conservatives like he is (which is fine, as long as you don't rub it in another person's face) & are lovers of contemporary classical musics. There is no greater sin, is there, as some have already pointed out. Basically, I dislike intellectual ** strongly, I like to call a spade a spade, simple as that...
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    It's very late here, and early morning in other places. Posts are getting crossed. I don't know if I have been making much sense myself. Maybe we had better just cool it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid James View Post
    I just like to speak my mind, I don't like to self-censor. That's what happened on another forum, so I got out of there. Me discussing certain things there that weren't considered "kosher" by these people - call them "highbrows" or whatever label you want - was beyond the pale. These people have a very covert way of operating & they want to force everyone to be "under the radar" like them. Well, I'm not like that, I like to be direct. Interestingly, not only myself, but also members some guy, Argus, regressivetransophobe have similarly garnered the disapproval of this member, for reasons good or bad. The main reason, of course, is that we are all not conservatives like he is (which is fine, as long as you don't rub it in another person's face) & are lovers of contemporary classical musics. There is no greater sin, is there, as some have already pointed out. Basically, I dislike intellectual ** strongly, I like to call a spade a spade, simple as that...
    My acting to curb personal attacks on this or that member doesn't mean I agree or disagree with either side's stance. You may be well justified in your complaints, I don't know. That area of the forum where your complaints may be most justified is not even under my watch, and I rarely read threads there. But experience shows that when there is strong prohibition of personal attacks, websites get to be more pleasant and friendly places for everybody's benefit. The anonymous character of these fora often makes people go overboard and engage in behavior that they wouldn't adopt, if they were face to face with their foes, due to sheer human decency and politeness. So, to compensate for this, we moderators need to be a bit on the strict side.

    Sites that are not moderated will have the full freedom to express one's views against other members... but there's a price to pay for this: a generally hostile environment. Personally, I prefer the Talk Classical way.

    And then, Sid, you need to think that this is just the Internets... Opinions are just that: opinions. Nobody should need to get this angry about any of this. We're here in order to have some fun. It's a hobby. It's just an Internet forum, not worth losing any sleep over. Let's just have fun and discuss our passion for Classical Music.
    Last edited by Almaviva; Sep-24-2011 at 03:27.
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