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    Default Opera on YouTube - good option? Recommendations?

    Do you guys like to watch complete operas on YouTube?

    I have rarely watched a complete one - a relatively recent example, a version of Die Soldaten - but more often, I avoid the format entirely, except for arias, fragments, or a way to screen a production before I buy it on DVD or blu-ray.

    I do have YouTube on my Internet-capable TV with a fairly speedy connection.

    But I just don't seem to get myself to watch a complete opera on YouTube. Even with a speedy connection there will be the eventual buffering pause... there's low image and sound quality... the changing of video clips when the opera is divided in several clips ruins the continuity and immersion... The presence or absence of subtitles in a language I understand is a lottery...

    The experience of watching a blu-ray with DTS sound is so profoundly superior... or even an older DVD...

    Of course, the big advantage of YouTube is availability, not to forget that there is no charge.

    But even in the case of operas that are not available elsewhere, I just can't get myself to spend 2 to 3 hours watching an opera with mediocre image and sound and often with no subtitles.

    So what's your opinion?

    And in case you do find it a valid option, should we make a list of the best complete opera videos out there on YouTube, those with good image and sound, hopefully not subdivided or divided in a few segments, with decent subtitles in major languages, and containing good productions?
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    For me its a necessary evil, limited funds and what not. I did however find a much better solution! If you subscribe with the met then you can watch unlimited, uninterupted operas with plenty of subtitle options. Also there're several payment options for those on a budget. Their archive is full of the old and the new, the most recent opera added was the mets premiere of Le Comte Ory.

    P.S. I know I'd still find a list of complete operas on youtube very helpful!!
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    I sometimes do. I recently watched the whole of L'Incoronazione di Poppea with Connolly and Persson. Luckily it was available in higher definition, but you are right, the changing of video clips is a pain, especially the the up-loader hasn't made a playlist out of it (Another reason to love Oedipus Tyrannus, he usually does). But I'll only watch it on YouTube if it is not available on DVD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountessAdele View Post
    For me its a necessary evil, limited funds and what not. I did however find a much better solution! If you subscribe with the met then you can watch unlimited, uninterupted operas with plenty of subtitle options. Also there're several payment options for those on a budget. Their archive is full of the old and the new, the most recent opera added was the mets premiere of Le Comte Ory.
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    Watching clips is OK but my internet speed is so low I can't watch without getting frustrated. But if it was the only option then of course I'd watch a complete opera.
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    The only way I could watch a full opera on YT is if the encoding was 720p or better, YT uses a significantly higher bitrate for the audio encode once you go above 480p
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    Given that most of the operas on YouTube are without subtitles, I usually lost interest in watching them within half an act and would just listen to the rest of it whilst I browse the internet. The sound/picture quality doesn't bother me at all.

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    I like it, and use it often. Normally for arias and specific things, but now and then also for complete operas.

    Here below, Penthesilea, by Othmar Schoeck:


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountessAdele View Post
    I did however find a much better solution! If you subscribe with the met then you can watch unlimited, uninterupted operas with plenty of subtitle options. Also there're several payment options for those on a budget. Their archive is full of the old and the new, the most recent opera added was the mets premiere of Le Comte Ory.
    Oh boy.......
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    It is true that it isn't of the highest quality, and there is a limited selection, when you are looking for opera on youtube. However, accessibility is the name of the game when it comes to my youtube channel, so if you guys have any suggestions of great opera performances (full ones) on youtube, I'll happily catalog them on my channel. Right now my Wagner and Bizet play lists look pathetic, that's for sure.
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    I love to watch individual arias or scenes on YouTube, but I don't think I'd make it through an entire opera.

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    Youtube is incredibly handy for exploring arias and listening to clips, as others have said. But the quality and clicking just gets in the way of enjoying a full opera performance. And I wouldn't dare watch an opera for the first time on youtube, in case the video quality, sound quality, etc turns me off when in fact the opera itself is fantastic elsewhere.

    Basically, I use Youtube to pick out which operas I'm going to rent from elsewhere, or for a quick aria fix.

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    Youtube is of course an indispensable tool for the buyer of opera DVDs, especially for those among us who suffer from a Eurotrash allergy. I sometimes also use it for post-purchase evaluations ("is this really how it's supposed to be sung?"), but never for independent watching.

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    Youtube = my best friend!

    OK, seriously ... I use it very often. Mostly for arias and fragments. But also the whole operas are more than welcome!

    Quote Originally Posted by Almaviva View Post
    And in case you do find it a valid option, should we make a list of the best complete opera videos out there on YouTube, those with good image and sound, hopefully not subdivided or divided in a few segments, with decent subtitles in major languages, and containing good productions?
    Yes, please! That would be great!
    I remember Aksel posted link to youtube channel with whole operas, but I can't find his post in the moment.

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    Thanks for this thread as I hadn't realized there were whole operas on Youtube. I would definitely peruse some of them, if the performances were also available on DVD/Blu Ray, so that I could screen them ahead of time.

    Are these operas mostly boot-legged or legitimately released on YouTube?

    I also subscribe to the Met Player since I do not live anywhere near NY. Having said that I did see an outstanding performance of Le Comte Ory there last Easter break while visiting family. It is now on MetPlayer and is to die for!

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