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    Is there any work that, even though you don't like it as a whole, you think deserves attention just for a movement or simply a section?

    My list would begin with Hubay's 3rd violin concerto. The complete work is not really interesting, but the middle Scherzo is delicate enough to make my day.

    I may continue with Busoni's piano concerto, only because of the choired finale.

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    My personal choice is Mahler's Symphony No. 5

    I'm lukewarm on the symphony as a whole. But the 4th movement Adagietto is one of the most beautiful slow movements in the entire symphonic genre.

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    OMG, a lot.

    Boccherini, sinfonia "casa del diavolo" op. 12 no 4 (3rd movement): inspired by Gluck, but one the best symphonic output by Boccherini.

    Haydn, first movement of his symphony no 53 (Imperial). The rest is ok, but the first movement strikes by its great greatness.

    Vanhal's first movement of his symphony in D minor (Bryan D2). Typical production of a second tier composer who, sometimes, reach the masters.

    There are many other examples.
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    Let me take another angle at this very good idea... here's a very popular piece with an overlooked mvmt:

    Mozart 40 in g minor.

    Everybody knows the 1st mvmt, possibly the Finale as well. But this is my favourite 2nd mvmt in all of Mozart's output, including his concertos.

    For me, the most divine passage is where the strings are playing the fugato theme, with the winds playing dotted descending scales overtop.

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    This thread deserves a rennecanse!

    Dvorak`s romantic pieces is a great work in whole, but the last movement, the larghetto is absolutely stunning!

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    Debussy's La Mer - the final movt., Dialogue of the Wind and Sea grabs me every time, but the other two movements don't even half as much. This is just my opinion, & I must admit I haven't heard the work for a while...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChamberNut View Post
    My personal choice is Mahler's Symphony No. 5

    I'm lukewarm on the symphony as a whole. But the 4th movement Adagietto is one of the most beautiful slow movements in the entire symphonic genre.
    That's exactly what I wanted to post.

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    What about a work that is good EXCEPT for one movement? Tchaikovsky's 5th Symphony. This is actually one of my favorite symphonies, but I have always felt it could be better if it didn't have that scherzo. It just does not seem to fit anywhere.

    Oh well, I just have to accept its existence and enjoy the music!

    And speaking of Tchaikovsky, I know it's cliche to say this, but the opening moments of his Piano Concerto no 1 are so freaking awesome. After the second go at the big tune the rest of the concerto fizzles into absolutely nothing.
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    Grosse Fuge

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxshrek View Post
    Grosse Fuge
    Eh? If you mean as part of string quartet #13 then you have to be joking. Aside from the first four movements of ridiculously high quality, it also contains the Cavatina, one of the best (if not the best) slow movements ever in any medium.

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    Definitely agree with Mahler's 5th, probably the best example I can think of. I'd also say both Chopin Piano Concertos have lovely slow movements but are otherwise unremarkable.

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    Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra slides from an awesome start into 'merely' interesting.

    Beethoven's Op. 2, No. 3 is (in most performances) rescued from mediocrity by its finale. Michelangeli's recordings are the exception to the rule - he makes it all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltroll72 View Post
    Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra slides from an awesome start into 'merely' interesting.
    I respectfully disagree. I thoroughly enjoy all of Zarathustra except for the "Sonnenaufgang," which seems too disconnected from the rest of the work.

    Beethoven's Op. 2, No. 3 is (in most performances) rescued from mediocrity by its finale. Michelangeli's recordings are the exception to the rule - he makes it all good.
    I respectfully agree.

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    Mahler 3rd as a whole isn't as awe-inspiring as the final movement. Between it and the opening fanfare there are many moments that I don't like at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopachris View Post
    I respectfully disagree. I thoroughly enjoy all of Zarathustra except for the "Sonnenaufgang," which seems too disconnected from the rest of the work.

    I respectfully agree.
    Yeah, the subject of this thread can only be a 'matter of opinion' anyway, and the premise is a little awkward. If it goes on long enough, someone may say that Bruckner's 3rd Symphony is saved from mediocrity by a single 'episode'.

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