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    Quote Originally Posted by staxomega View Post
    Do you mind saying what the interpretive differences are between Tureck's two cycles? I seem to recall the sound being much better on the live BBC set and the interpretations being fabulous.

    Edit: on Afanassiev, I find he is missing a bit of poetry in places, like the BWV882 Prelude.
    I feel the same way as Bulldog about Tureck, that the DG WTC has a certain magic which isn’t there in the BBC. Generally I find her earlier recordings more inspiring.

    Re Afanassiev, you’re not going to find one which equally is successful everywhere, not on piano at least.

    I just listened to Afanassiev play 882. Quite frankly I though the music really suffers because of the temperament of the instrument - the harmonies are just too white note to be interesting. Hans Georg Schaefer, who I would have recommended but I thought that you may not find his recording makes enough use of piano specific effects, uses a different tuning, and maybe Pietro de Maria too, I can’t remember (I don’t like what he does at all!)

    For a very pianistic approach to the 882 prelude, try Levinas. It’s not my cup of tea at all!
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    Hans Georg Schäfer easily available at Amazon.de (heartily recommended):

    https://www.amazon.de/s?k=hans+georg...ref=nb_sb_noss

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    Who is/was Hans Georg Schaefer? The WTC shows him to be a fine musician.
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    He is an important musician, even the Bach Cantatas website has a biography:

    https://www.bach-cantatas.com/Bio/Sc...Hans-Georg.htm

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    It'll never happen but if Sokolov ever recorded the full WTK, as with most of his Bach, his would almost certainly be my favorite. Here's a couple of collections of various individual preludes/fugues he's performed over the years--around 1/3 of book 1 and 2/3 of book 2:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    I feel the same way as Bulldog about Tureck, that the DG WTC has a certain magic which isn’t there in the BBC. Generally I find her earlier recordings more inspiring.

    Re Afanassiev, you’re not going to find one which equally is successful everywhere, not on piano at least.

    I just listened to Afanassiev play 882. Quite frankly I though the music really suffers because of the temperament of the instrument - the harmonies are just too white note to be interesting. Hans Georg Schaefer, who I would have recommended but I thought that you may not find his recording makes enough use of piano specific effects, uses a different tuning, and maybe Pietro de Maria too, I can’t remember (I don’t like what he does at all!)

    For a very pianistic approach to the 882 prelude, try Levinas. It’s not my cup of tea at all!
    Thanks, I have my work cut out for new recordings to try. I'll revisit Afanassiev regarding the temperament.

    On Tureck's two cycles after refreshing my memory on the BBC I am in complete agreement with you two; the BBC is harder edged and I prefer the interpretations on the DG. I did like that she used a bit more tasteful ornamentation in places in the BBC, but that was about it.
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    New option with this boxset (harpsicord).......
    Has complete WTC I & II and two versions of Goldberg (studio and live) also complete partitas.....

    Still making first listen to boxset, but these are 1st class performances that will rank highly overall
    The Ross WTC was very hard/expensive to find before and worth the budget price of entire boxset alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post


    New option with this boxset (harpsicord).......
    Has complete WTC I & II and two versions of Goldberg (studio and live) also complete partitas.....

    Still making first listen to boxset, but these are 1st class performances that will rank highly overall
    The Ross WTC was very hard to find before and worth the budget price of entire boxset alone
    Great acquisition!! Ross is one of the all-time best harpsichordists, be it Bach, Handel, Scarlatti, or any other composer he played.

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    Amazon is confused.



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    I’m not as enthusiastic about Scott Ross as Bulldog, but I am by nature a positive fellow, so I’ll say that I quite enjoyed his Partitas, his Italian Concerto and his Chromatic Fanatasy, which seem to me to have a sort of fresh, straightforward expressiveness. The Bach Partitas are I think the best thing he did, maybe apart from one of the D’Anglebert suits and some of the Rameau he recorded.

    I should say that as far as I remember I haven’t heard the live Goldbergs. It may be their first release in the big new box.

    It’s nice to hear the paritas played on what is, I think, a French harpsichord.
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    I wonder what you guys will make of this on soundcloud, I think it’s rather good

    https://soundcloud.com/user-84362818...red-clavier-bk

    I don’t know who John Lewis Grant is.

    The rubato seems natural, he uses piano effects but it’s not a problem, he’s clearly given a lot of thought to voicing and to touch, the phrasing in the preludes seems to me to bring out their structure. The piano is equally tuned or close, but it’s rather beautiful. This guy knows what he’s doing IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    My favorite versions of the WTC on piano include Woodward, Fellner, Vieru, Crossland, Tureck, Sheppard, Gould, Koroliov, and Gulda.
    I've been making my way through your list, from the ones that are new to me both books Andrei Vieru recorded are absolutely phenomenal. I haven't been this taken by pianist playing WTC since discovering Samuil Feinberg.

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    If you want a very fast interpretation she is amazing!
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    I posted this on another thread and both of these have been mentioned previously but not the fact that they are free. So here you are.

    Two Bach Well Tempered Clavier offerings absolutely free from Archive.org. I have listened to quite a lot or all of both. Totally different ways of playing. Switching back and forth between them is fun. The Loesser recording is from around 1964 and it is a tad less in sound quality. Demus sounds great on his recordings, the piano is beautiful. The interpretations are for you to decide. I like them both and see no need to purchase a WTC in the future.

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    https://archive.org/details/04BWV849

    https://archive.org/details/J.S.BACH...-BOOKI-Loesser

    https://archive.org/details/J.S.BACH...BOOKII-Loesser

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    Thoughts on Michael Levinas? I've managed to listen to it once and am perfectly luke warm on it- biggest complaints being his over pedaling and tempi that can occasionally border on putting you to sleep. But then he'll turn on a dime and play a piece with crystal clear articulation and attention to the voices. Overall IMHO a cycle that was too up and down for me.

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