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    Quote Originally Posted by Luchesi View Post
    If you want a very fast interpretation she is amazing!
    She's gorgeous to look at but that opening prelude was horrible. Just a wash of notes with no phrasing or articulation. It's slightly better after that but she seems to employ a rubato style that makes the music hard to follow. Not my cuppa.
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    I've been enjoying Evelyne Crochet. Her complete set is available on the Music & Arts label.
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...vier-books-1-2
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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post


    I've been enjoying Evelyne Crochet. Her complete set is available on the Music & Arts label.
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...vier-books-1-2
    Yes, I also find her WTC a winner, especially her interpretations in Bk. 2.

    That's very generous of you to provide the full set!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    Yes, I also find her WTC a winner, especially her interpretations in Bk. 2.

    That's very generous of you to provide the full set!
    I don't know if YT is a help or hindrance? But I still buy CDs. I suppose many just listen and don't support music. There's not much that can be done about that. But I plan on picking up this set when it goes on sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    I don't know if YT is a help or hindrance? But I still buy CDs. I suppose many just listen and don't support music. There's not much that can be done about that. But I plan on picking up this set when it goes on sale.
    I bought Crochet's set when it first came out - have had it a number of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog View Post
    I bought Crochet's set when it first came out - have had it a number of years.
    I was assuming you did. As most folks here buy music.
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    Another great Russian hidden away in the old Melodiya archives that just came to my attention - Maria Yudina Bold expressive style that is very refreshing WTC I & II

    Tidal streaming has nice collection saving me the cost of her expensive hard to find limited CD sets, 1950s sound is serviceable but not the best (as is most Melodiya material of that era) Quote from Presto UK

    “This is not at all what I wrote, but play it like this. Do play it this way!” exclaimed Dmitri Shostakovich after Yudina performed the freshly written 24 Preludes and Fugues. This exclamation contains the key to understanding of Maria Yudina’s performing art
    Whatever she played – her beloved Bach, Mozart, Schubert or “serialist” Webern, or Stravinsky, Beethoven, Debussy or the composers who lived in Leningrad during the siege – everything sounded unexpected, paradoxical, but extremely convincing.



    Sound samples:
    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...ersary-edition
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    Another great Russian hidden away in the old Melodiya archives that just came to my attention - Maria Yudina Bold expressive style that is very refreshing WTC I & II
    Maria Yudina was quite famous in the Soviet Union. Shostakovich tells this story about her, having to do with a radio broadcast of Mozart’s 23rd Piano Concerto, a favorite of Stalin.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    Maria Yudina was quite famous in the Soviet Union. Shostakovich tells this story about her, having to do with a radio broadcast of Mozart’s 23rd Piano Concerto, a favorite of Stalin.

    I've mentioned this in another thread, but that story is integrated into the film "The Death of Stalin," a wildly funny comedy from 2018. In a marvelous piece of type-casting, Yudina was played by a Bond girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    I've mentioned this in another thread, but that story is integrated into the film "The Death of Stalin," a wildly funny comedy from 2018. In a marvelous piece of type-casting, Yudina was played by a Bond girl.
    I just watched that film with my girlfriend a few weeks ago, she is a huge Yudina fan. We both loved it. Anyway, her Bach is wonderful, though, granted, extremely bizarre.

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    All of my favorites—Turek, Gulda, Gould, and Richter--have been mentioned. Throwing in the name Abdel Rahman El Bacha in case anyone would like to sample the audiophile-quality sound.

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    I recently heard Book 2 played by the late English pianist Julia Cload, and was very impressed. I get the sense that Cload had lived with this music for many years, before putting her thoughts down on record. To my ears, her interpretations are deeply profound and insightful, and remarkably musical. & I liked that her tempi are generally a bit more spacious than certain other pianists, such as Crochet (whom she compliments well, interpretatively). If interested, you can hear her WTC on You Tube:

    Book 1:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uoW...Wbpm5qbVdOeZe8
    Book 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNIx...7B8JAcO57KRSgE

    Granted, I've yet to hear Cload's Book 1 (or her Goldbergs or Haydn sonatas), but after listening to her Book 2 (twice) I fully expect she's going to become one of my favorite interpreters of Bach's WTC on piano, joining the likes of Samuel Feinberg, Tatiana Nikolayeva, Mieczyslaw Horsowski, Evelyn Crochet, Edward Aldwell, and Valery Afanassiev (to sample these pianists, see the YT links provided on my previous post on this thread). (Although I do still hope that pianist Virginia Black will record this music in the future, & possibly Dubravka Tomsic.)

    (On harpsichord, my favorite WTC recordings have come from Leon Berben, Bob van Asperen, Pieter-Jan Belder, Pierre Hantai (Book 1 only), and Peter Watchorn. I've yet to hear Ottavio Dantone's WTC, but have heard glowing reports about his Book 2. In addition, I hope that Pascal Dubreuil will record the WTC at some point in the future, as his brilliant 6 Partitas have grown on me & become my benchmark favorite.)
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    I’ve been listening to this one today. It’s very strange, it’s dark, sad. Anyway I thought I’d post here to see what others think, you never know with these things, it could be me who’s strange, dark and sad, not the music!
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    I'm always in the mood for listening to the WTC, but I tend to go for different interpretations based off whatever mood I'm fancying- lyrical, introspective, spiritual, breezy, idiomatic, personal, modern, traditional, etc. It's one of the few works where I don't have a clear favorite. I'm always on the lookout for new interpretations, so I really appreciate seeing all the recommendations in this thread! Ones I'm most likely to reach for include Schiff (despite the irritating mannerisms), Tureck, Landowska, Richter, Aimard (he has a version that comes with his own recorded commentary for each pair, which is interesting), Pollini for Book I (straightforward and unfussy), Feinberg (very special playing that all Bachians need to hear at least once), and Crossland (I've really been loving hers lately- it's unabashed modern piano style but really gutsy and refreshing interpretations). I've rarely met one I didn't like, except definitely Gould, who I find just appalling, and maybe Edwin Fischer's, which I just can't see the love for. Gorgeous silky playing, no doubt, but it all just seems rushed and awkwardly stylized.
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    Allegro Con Brio - Very fine recommendations, and I like the negative (although my instincts were against yours) about Edwin Fischer, or even the late Glenn Gould. Wow, it's great that someone even REMEMBERS Wanda Landowska, or Rosalyn Tureck .... and nice recommendations, for Aimard, Feinberg and Crossland. Maybe there could be some mention of Schnabel, also, in his Bachian-types of interpretations. It seems that the WTC .. and maybe the Musical Offering .. are closely-aligned, in their melodic & harmonic developments. Well, of course, we could try to make similar connections, in Bach, to MANY compositions, across various instruments and/or orchestras. Thanks!

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