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    Quote Originally Posted by 89Koechel View Post
    Allegro Con Brio - Very fine recommendations, and I like the negative (although my instincts were against yours) about Edwin Fischer, or even the late Glenn Gould. Wow, it's great that someone even REMEMBERS Wanda Landowska, or Rosalyn Tureck .... and nice recommendations, for Aimard, Feinberg and Crossland. Maybe there could be some mention of Schnabel, also, in his Bachian-types of interpretations. It seems that the WTC .. and maybe the Musical Offering .. are closely-aligned, in their melodic & harmonic developments. Well, of course, we could try to make similar connections, in Bach, to MANY compositions, across various instruments and/or orchestras. Thanks!
    Didn't know Schnabel had done any Bach. I will have to check that out, even though I have very similar feelings about him as I do with Fischer (rushed, awkward, nervous). I just don't care for that style of pianism- it's embodied by Rubinstein as well.

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    Just a quick question. Does anyone know of a version performed on the clavichord? Listened to Kunst Der Fugue the other day played on the clavichord and it was, without a doubt, my most enjoyable and rewarding listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classical yorkist View Post
    Just a quick question. Does anyone know of a version performed on the clavichord? Listened to Kunst Der Fugue the other day played on the clavichord and it was, without a doubt, my most enjoyable and rewarding listen.
    Ralph Kirkpatrick recorded both books on clavichord.

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    In addition to Kirkpatrick,

    --Colin Tilney plays Book 1 on a clavichord (while his Book 2 is played on a harpsichord):

    https://www.amazon.com/Bach-Das-Wohl.../dp/B000002ZM3

    --On You Tube: Wim Winter, Book 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZL...fcLg4Eyd2G7sV7

    --Richard Troeger has also recorded Bach extensively on a clavichord, but I don't think he's done the WTC yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classical yorkist View Post
    Just a quick question. Does anyone know of a version performed on the clavichord?.
    Jaroslav Tuma and Ralph Kirkpatrick as Don says. Both worth trying IMO


    Quote Originally Posted by classical yorkist View Post
    Listened to Kunst Der Fugue the other day played on the clavichord and it was, without a doubt, my most enjoyable and rewarding listen.

    Who playing? There’s a version on clavichord by Stefan Müller and Johann Sonnleitner which is a great favourite of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Jaroslav Tuma and Ralph Kirkpatrick as Don says. Both worth trying IMO





    Who playing? There’s a version on clavichord by Stefan Müller and Johann Sonnleitner which is a great favourite of mine.
    Richard Troeger was the player. I listened on YouTube.

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    Allegro - Hope you'll excuse a late reply. ... Well, Schnabel, in Bach, is available on Amazon, of course. One of the best examples is an MP3 dub of Concerto for 2 Keyboards/BWV 1061, plus the Italian Concerto, the Chromatic Fantasia & Fugue/BWV 903, plus some others. Well, maybe Schnabel might, slightly, seem "rushed/awkward/nervous" to some, but NOT to me, my friend. There's a true penetration into the music, itself ... with enough repose/atmosphere (in the slow movements) to merit some HIGH marks, in interpretations of Bach. Hope you'll investigate Schnabel, some more ... and he's always worth consideration.

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    Ralph Kirkpatrick recorded both books on harpsichord too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sad Al View Post
    Ralph Kirkpatrick recorded both books on harpsichord too.
    What was it, a revival harpsichord?

    I'd be quite interested to hear it, because the interpretation on clavcichord is quite prescient, with all it's flexibility and expressiveness . . . this was made at the time when others were playing Bach mechanically.

    The clavichord he used sounds bizarre to me. Does anyone know anything about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    What was it, a revival harpsichord?

    I'd be quite interested to hear it, because the interpretation on clavcichord is quite prescient, with all it's flexibility and expressiveness . . . this was made at the time when others were playing Bach mechanically.

    The clavichord he used sounds bizarre to me. Does anyone know anything about it?
    Agreed, based on listening to a portion on Tidal. I have Tilney, which has a better sounding clavichord. I also like Troeger's clavichord, although he has not done WTC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    What was it, a revival harpsichord?

    I'd be quite interested to hear it, because the interpretation on clavcichord is quite prescient, with all it's flexibility and expressiveness . . . this was made at the time when others were playing Bach mechanically.

    The clavichord he used sounds bizarre to me. Does anyone know anything about it?
    As far as I know, he made some Bach recordings on harpsichord - maybe also the WTC on an US label - some years before the DG recordings. I owned book II on LP (DG) (harpsichord) and the instrument was his usual Neupert revival harpsichord. But I never warmed to it so I culled it long time ago.

    Recently I found this:

    https://www.prestomusic.com/classica...clavier-book-1

    I also find the sound of his clavichords strange particularly in book I, while book II is just listenable.
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    I am listening to it while I write this. I digitized it all from vinyl LP:s that I recently found in a local library here in Finland. One look at the surfaces was enough to tell me that no one had ever listened to any of this obsolete stuff since the Beatles played in the Shea Stadium. I am not sure if it's Neupert but it's nice. Neupert was OK wasn't it? If you want I can check out the instrument.

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    Ah yes I found the WTC1 on the revival harpsichod, it's always nice to hear Kirkpatrick whatever he's playing!

    I wonder whether Neupert made his clavichord, it sounds like a revival clavichord to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
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    I’ve been listening to this one today. It’s very strange, it’s dark, sad. Anyway I thought I’d post here to see what others think, you never know with these things, it could be me who’s strange, dark and sad, not the music!
    Recently got WTC 1 from this artist, mixed bag for me most of it is very interesting and shows stylish flair and excitement, but a few pieces are slower than I normally like.....as you say perhaps showing an introspective or dark mood

    Unfortunately Dina passed away Sept 2019 at young age 46.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    Recently got WTC 1 from this artist, mixed bag for me most of it is very interesting and shows stylish flair and excitement, but a few pieces are slower than I normally like.....as you say perhaps showing an introspective or dark mood

    Unfortunately Dina passed away Sept 2019 at young age 46.........

    My feeling about her is that her most interesting work, by far, was just before she died, Schubert and WTC2.

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