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    Demus sounds interesting.

    whatever happened to that Spanish named guy that did a whole Bach cycle on piano for Conneseur Society label or something like that? He had one hand or something and his playing was fantastic. remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltroll72 View Post
    Um... congratulations?

    No, no. No need. I forgot it wasn't a pm or a messenger, that's all.


    So who's the next person that tried to play WTC we're gonna suggest next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Demus sounds interesting.

    whatever happened to that Spanish named guy that did a whole Bach cycle on piano for Conneseur Society label or something like that? He had one hand or something and his playing was fantastic. remember?
    Are you thinking of Martins? Pretty sure he's Brazilian though. Had both hands too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltroll72 View Post
    Are you thinking of Martins? Pretty sure he's Brazilian though. Had both hands too.
    yeah, that's him. played with just a thumb on one hand and 2 fingers on the other, or something like that. amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    yeah, that's him. played with just a thumb on one hand and 2 fingers on the other, or something like that. amazing.
    He became, I think I read, crippled by an ailment similar in effect but not in detail to carpal tunnel. I think I also read that some sort of cure was eventually found. The WTC recordings, (he did them twice) were made before the crippling.

    Martins' WTC, especially the second set, is quite unconventional in interpretation - so the critics say. I struggle enough with most recordings of the music that I can't tell if he's unconventional or not.
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    Default Not the fugue.

    This is the Prelude of the b-flat minor, Bk. II. But I like your assessment of the performances! This is mainly because I started this Prelude and Fugue on Sunday and was questioning Bischoff's instruction that the Prelude should be "tranquillo, con espressione." I said, heck no, and came up with something close to Gould's articulation. Yay me! Anyway, I totally understand your confusion; the Prelude is very fuguey!
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    Hey, if we wanna steer this listener down the wrong path by all means. Out of the above mentioned, Gulda is the only one who even understands the music and how it should be played and he does a pretty fine job of it. Heck, let's give 'em Angela Hewitt for that matter! You decide:


    Fugue at 3:53




    And, if you're still awake...fugue at 1:50




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    I've been listening to this music on YouTube all weekend. I really like Richter's playing. Schiff's new recording sounds beautiful. Gulda hits the keys awfully hard. Gould's humming doesn't bother me. Now, the big question. Which recording will keep me coming back for four hours of this stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
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    Now, the big question. Which recording will keep me coming back for four hours of this stuff?
    Beats me. I have a rather strong liking for Sergey Schepkin's playing of Book 2, and Arthur Loesser's Book 1. Except for both books being preludes&fugues, they aren't all that closely related y'know.
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    I'll look up those players, thanks! I'm going to keep doing the YouTube thing for a while.

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    It's no point listening to Bach trough anyone else than Glenn Gould imo, but different tastes...

    Tatiana Nikolaeva is pretty good as well
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    i have Schiffs and Hewitts cycles.
    love them both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    i have Schiffs and Hewitts cycles.
    love them both.
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    There are isolated examples of Russian Bach playing in the "Russian Piano School" sets (20 CDs) which deserve mention. Like a multi-faceted jewel, can Bach's WTC be confined to merely one version, by one mortal?

    For a complete picture, Peter Watchorn's harpsichord version must be mentioned. He uses Bradley Lehman's recently discovered (2002) "Bach" well-tempered tuning.

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    I have Schiff and Perahia on piano, and I prefer Schiff. I have Davitt Moroney on harpsichord, which isn't bad, but not my favorite. I actually greatly enjoy Ralph Kirkpatrick's recording on the clavichord. The sound is much more mellow than a harpsichord, and while not a very "strong" instrument, it makes the music much more transparent, and allows for a greater appreciation of the fugues.

    I have been meaning to pick up Hewitt's newer recording. I have sampled Gould, and while I am slowly coming to terms with his 80's recording of the Goldberg Variations, I still don't care much for his interpretations.

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    Here´s a Samuil Feinberg sample (a private LP transfer made for you-t, the sound is better in CD versions):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpQJxvhUzxg
    Last edited by joen_cph; Dec-03-2012 at 17:31.

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