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    The last movement (a fugue) of Bach's Toccata BWV 914 transcribed by Stefano Grondona. Here is some other enterprising guitarist taking a stab at this ferociously difficult movement!



    EDIT: Gibran Araújo plays his own transcription, which seems a little "easier" than Grondona's.
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    I had a nice violin lesson this morning. I started to learn the three Vienese Waltzes of Fritz Kreisler: Liebesfreud, Liebesleid, Schōn Rosmarin.

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    I've been working on Dowland's Lachrimae Pavan - Flow My Tears and Rodrigo's Sonata a la Espanola.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    The last movement (a fugue) of Bach's Toccata BWV 914 transcribed by Stefano Grondona. Here is some other enterprising guitarist taking a stab at this ferociously difficult movement!



    EDIT: Gibran Araújo plays his own transcription, which seems a little "easier" than Grondona's.
    To quote inspector Dirty Harry, "A wise man's gotta know his limitations." This piece (and just about any Bach keyboard piece) is just too hard on the guitar. Back to Prelude, Fugue, and Allegro BWV 998, which is plenty hard!

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    After handling pretty well the first movement of Beethoven's Violin Concerto now I'm practicing 2nd and 3rd movement. Am I the only one who truly doesn't see 'the beauty' of second movement in this concerto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyRedhead View Post
    After handling pretty well the first movement of Beethoven's Violin Concerto now I'm practicing 2nd and 3rd movement. Am I the only one who truly doesn't see 'the beauty' of second movement in this concerto?
    The Beethoven isn't my favourite violin concerto, there are several ahead of this. Too much like playing scales. Though I'm envious that you can play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyRedhead View Post
    After handling pretty well the first movement of Beethoven's Violin Concerto now I'm practicing 2nd and 3rd movement. Am I the only one who truly doesn't see 'the beauty' of second movement in this concerto?
    I love the 2nd movement but there's no reason to have to love it. I love the lyricism and the simplicity of it. It's like a song within an orchestral context. But everyone has different preferences.

    The thing about the Beethoven concerto is that it is utterly unapproachable from a musical standpoint unless you know how to make music out of it (I'm talking about the 1st movement). Perlman said Beethoven is the hardest of them all because you need so much musical mind and control to make it not sound like a bunch of scales and practice exercises. The best versions of the Beethoven concerto are always the ones that don't sound just like someone practicing their scales.

    As soon as I get my bow back from repairs, I'm learning the 3rd movement of the Bruch concerto, which is not a walk in the park technically. But I believe I have increased the efficiency of my practicing an incredible amount by reading up on the subject so that will be a nice project

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyRedhead View Post
    After handling pretty well the first movement of Beethoven's Violin Concerto now I'm practicing 2nd and 3rd movement. Am I the only one who truly doesn't see 'the beauty' of second movement in this concerto?
    I'm curious to know how long it takes you to learn a concerto. How long have you been working on the first movement of the LvB? I'm impatient and also not disciplined enough in my playing. This needs to change, I know. For nearly two months I've been working on the Bach E major, and Mozart G major.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyRedhead View Post
    After handling pretty well the first movement of Beethoven's Violin Concerto now I'm practicing 2nd and 3rd movement. Am I the only one who truly doesn't see 'the beauty' of second movement in this concerto?
    Learn it with Schnittke's cadenzas and get back to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus
    Learn it with Schnittke's cadenzas and get back to us.
    No need, Kreiesler's is beautiful enough By the way, this cadenza is probably one of the best in the whole violin literature.

    Quote Originally Posted by senza sordino
    I'm curious to know how long it takes you to learn a concerto. How long have you been working on the first movement of the LvB?
    It's hard to say how long I was working only on this movement because at the same time I was practicing several other pieces (Wieniawski's 5th caprice, Bach's great Chaccone, 1st movement of Mozart's A-major violin concerto + cadenza and Frank's violin sonata). All together took me about 3 months.

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    I've been playing the Mozart G major for about two months, trying to memorize it. I am convinced that at my advanced age of.........48....... memorizing is more difficult. If you've been memorizing music since you were a kid then memorizing as an adult is probably easier. I never did memorize anything as a kid, except maybe the times table, certainly not music. This is the first significant and long piece of music I've tried to memorize. And most of the first movement is memorized. I played much of the first movement from memory for my teacher yesterday. Another problem is that I'm playing it too slowly, and now the too slow version is starting to sound like the correct way to play it.

    I too have been learning other pieces at the same time, so not all of my time has gone into the Mozart. Kreisler, Bach E major and this week the Presto from the first solo sonata of Bach.

    Thank-you for replying SimplyRedhead, your input and insights are greatly appreciated.

    P.S. The Kreisler cadenza is superlative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by senza sordino View Post
    I've been playing the Mozart G major for about two months, trying to memorize it. I am convinced that at my advanced age of.........48....... memorizing is more difficult.
    I read a blog by a performance psychology teacher at Juilliard (Bulletproof Musician), and one of his blogposts was on memorizing pieces of music. I think it helps a lot. He suggests having different ways of encoding music into our memory so that we can recall it in different ways whenever we want:

    See if you can hum or solfege the entire piece without referring to the score.
    See if you can “play” the piece on your instrument – without making a sound.
    See if you can visualize the score in your head and mentally “play” the piece through from beginning to end.
    See if you can mentally “hear” yourself play the piece through from beginning to end.
    Try closing your eyes and trying to mentally rehearse the piece from beginning to end, “feeling” yourself play the piece on your instrument, “hearing” the desired sounds being produced, and perhaps even “seeing” the notes pass by on the score. Can you get through the piece without a hitch?

    Challenge: Sit down with empty staff paper and write out the entire piece from memory including the notes, articulations, dynamics, tempo markings, etc.

    Another suggestion was to create images for sections and phrases of the piece, so you could identify certain parts by thinking about those images. You can assign different characters, or stories (see: Maxim Vengerov's masterclass with four young students) to an entire movement and use those images to systematically recall every bit of it.

    The last suggestion was the "memory castle" whereby you think of a piece as a trip, perhaps starting from home, and then ending up at the end of such a journey at whatever destination. A section of the piece could be you walking to a friend's house, or sitting down someplace to eat, or wandering through the park, or a grove, or the mountains, or meeting up with people you know, and then arriving back home. So basically you have a map in your head of the piece.

    If you're interested, you should read his blogposts here.
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    I am a new violin player (just started 8 months ago)... I'm currently working on the 2nd Seitz Concerto.

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    I have been playing all three movements of the Bach E major concerto, though it's not fast enough yet. This piece has been a challenge because of the key, all those accidentals, B#, E#, F double sharp.

    I started to learn the Beethoven Spring Violin Sonata today. I'm quite excited about this. And the plan is to play this with the piano.

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    The 2nd movement of Mozart's 3rd violin concerto, the Presto from Bach's 1st violin sonata, and breezing through Kreutzer violin etudes with my private teacher.

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