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    Quote Originally Posted by MaestroViolinist View Post
    More Wieniawski. I have to learn this, I have a month before I have to play it at a concert with my teacher (who is obviously going to be playing the easy part ).
    Gosh! That sounds insanely difficult! Good luck with it!

    But I thought your teacher was better than you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComposerOfAvantGarde View Post
    Gosh! That sounds insanely difficult! Good luck with it!

    But I thought your teacher was better than you?
    Yes he's better, that's why he's given me the harder part so that I can learn. Actually, it's quite easy, just scales up and down (and around about...). It just goes really fast, that's all.
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    Amazingly I've finally finished up with Walton's 4th Bagatelle!!!

    The unorthodox use of harmonics in the piece caused me some difficulty, and I've noticed many performers 'cheat' on the double harmonics notated by only playing one harmonic and playing the other as a regular note.

    I've decided to now focus all my attention on Bach's Chaconne. Since discovering it I've always felt it was the piece I most wanted to learn at some point before I die, and if there is any truth to the world ending December 21st 2012, I really don't have too much time left here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdc View Post
    I've decided to now focus all my attention on Bach's Chaconne. Since discovering it I've always felt it was the piece I most wanted to learn at some point before I die, and if there is any truth to the world ending December 21st 2012, I really don't have too much time left here.
    From a purely technical standpoint, the main difficulties are the scales and arpeggios, and even they are quite idiomatic. The Toccata and Fugue that I'm working on has far more difficult left hand issues. The Chaconne is mainly long--once you get the fast bits down, it fits under the fingers pretty well. Now, memorizing and keeping a 15 minute piece in one's memory is another issue altogether!

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    After tomorrow NEW MUSIC!!! I am hoping to continue with all of Henze's Drei Tentos and make a start on Giuliani's first guitar concerto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    From a purely technical standpoint, the main difficulties are the scales and arpeggios, and even they are quite idiomatic. The Toccata and Fugue that I'm working on has far more difficult left hand issues. The Chaconne is mainly long--once you get the fast bits down, it fits under the fingers pretty well. Now, memorizing and keeping a 15 minute piece in one's memory is another issue altogether!
    Yes, I haven't even reached the difficult sections yet, still working on memorizing the first page and a half or so. Though the music is very satisfying to play in this piece, I'm just enjoying the process.

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    Still working on Bach's Chaconne, this piece almost makes me want to give up trying to compose ever. Its hard to explain but I get to parts of the piece that don't quite make sense to me, then completely make sense after what happens so much later, I just feel like it would take incredible foresight to be able to compose this way. Its almost as if composers who don't have this extra 'sense' are like blindly trying to pick a combination lock. I certainly won't completely give up composing or anything, but I don't have much hope I will ever be able to compose anything on this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdc View Post
    Still working on Bach's Chaconne, this piece almost makes me want to give up trying to compose ever. Its hard to explain but I get to parts of the piece that don't quite make sense to me, then completely make sense after what happens so much later, I just feel like it would take incredible foresight to be able to compose this way. Its almost as if composers who don't have this extra 'sense' are like blindly trying to pick a combination lock. I certainly won't completely give up composing or anything, but I don't have much hope I will ever be able to compose anything on this level.
    You and Brahms share that opinion!

    "The Chaconne is in my opinion one of the most wonderful and most incomprehensible pieces of music. Using the technique adapted to a small instrument the man writes a whole world of the deepest thoughts and most powerful feelings. If I could picture myself writing, or even conceiving, such a piece, I am certain that the extreme excitement and emotional tension would have driven me mad."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdc View Post
    Still working on Bach's Chaconne,
    Whose transcription? I'm using Segovia's, but I might add some of Barrueco's counterpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    Whose transcription? I'm using Segovia's, but I might add some of Barrueco's counterpoint.
    I'm using Segovia's transcription as well, though I tend to add or subtract things that I like from other recordings. I have a recording of Barrueco playing the Gigue from BWV 1004 on a compilation cd I bought years ago, and I really love what he added to the piece, its the best version I've heard of that movement on guitar. I'll have to check out his version of the Chaconne you've mentioned.

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    Here's a sample of what he did. (I transcribed it by ear) Measures 33-36:

    chaconne.JPG
    I soon realized that the imitation didn't need to be a second voice (Finale gives each one a different color); hence, the red for the rest of the measures since I forgot to switch back to voice 1!

    Also, I saw a mistake...the imitative voice came in a beat early, so I fixed it, but I can't change the thumbnail version, so just click on the first one--it will enlarge enough.
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    Last edited by Kontrapunctus; Dec-17-2012 at 06:35.

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    ^ Interesting, so he actually repeats that section two times playing it differently each time. That certainly changes things up more than most have. I played through it a couple of times, it seemed to add some nice dissonances.

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    No, he plays it just once--my first clip had a error in it! I spent several hours listening to it yesterday and added most of his additions--a few didn't add that much to the sound, so I left them out--I mainly like the sections where he adds some counterpoint or fills in the textures. By combining his and Segovia's, one ends up with a rather full-sounding piece!
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    Bach - BWV1006a, Prélude for now, but I'd like to get started with at least two other movements before January.

    Takemitsu - Rosedale from "In the Woods" I'm working on it again after having played it last year at an exam. After having spent one hour with it I'm confident I'll come back really quickly - I had been working on it for hours...

    Henze - Drei Tentos I have also already worked on it last year but not really properly.


    I find the Henze and Takemitsu less hard than Bach. Bach is really frightening when you think about it, but I can't find why exactly. I feel like most Henze/Takemitsu are cooler, less pure and "unstained" than Bach - and on the top of that, this Prelude is fast and you can't rest anywhere.


    Villa-Lobos : études... 10 and 1, but I should revise 3 and 5

    And after I'll soon start Mompou Preludio & Muneira from the Suite Compostellana, and Carter's Shard when I'm done with at the least the technical difficulties and the memorization of Henze and Takemitsu.
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    I am playing Winter by Vivaldi!!!!!!!!!

    (I expect a like from all Vivaldi fans )
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