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    Quote Originally Posted by powerbooks View Post
    Unless my memory fails me, this DVD is definitely sung in German. Think about it: all German cast and choirs, including children, why do they use English? I don't have it at hand now (need to find it!), but Amazon has misleading information. The DVD has English menu, and subtitles, but it is sung in German.
    Thanks powerbooks. It's Region 1 so I'd have to view it through my PC but I might order it anyway.
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    Dunedin Consort & Players, cond. John Butt is the most beautiful I've ever heard, but I like Herreweghe's too.

    Both will come with a full libretto.

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    In terms of sound quality you should go for the Linn recording (Dunedin Consort). Excellent recording, something that is to me as important as the playing itself is.

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    The more I learn about St Matthew Passion, the more I enjoy it & my obsession shows no signs of abating! I had wanted to go to Cambridge to see it again there but I've changed my plans.
    Will be seeing it in Amsterdam next March, my first time at the Concertgebouw & VERY excited. Then I'm seeing it again in London. It's on at St. George's Hanover Square as part of the London Handel Festival .
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    A work beyond any praise, undoubtedly, but not an easy one to get into it. Patience and perseverance may have an enchanting effect, before which all musical difficulties may disappear and artistic or cultural obstacles vanish, while, at the same time, all the immense beauty and musical richness of the Passion emerge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by principe View Post
    A work beyond any praise, undoubtedly, but not an easy one to get into it. Patience and perseverance may have an enchanting effect, before which all musical difficulties may disappear and artistic or cultural obstacles vanish, while, at the same time, all the immense beauty and musical richness of the Passion emerge.

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    Thank you for such a beautiful and poetic response. I am looking also forward to seeing it performed in such different venues. The Concertgebouw holds about 2000 and St George's Church considerably less!
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    I understand that if it's "set in the context of Vespers" this means there's a sermon at the interval.

    Does anyone know if there are there any other features which makes it different from a performance in a concert hall?

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    I might not be completely mentally healthy, but count me among those who love the Klemperer recording.
    Wäre das Faktum wahr, – wäre der außerordentliche Fall wirklich eingetreten, daß die politische Gesetzgebung der Vernunft übertragen, der Mensch als Selbstzweck respektiert und behandelt, das Gesetz auf den Thron erhoben, und wahre Freiheit zur Grundlage des Staatsgebäudes gemacht worden, so wollte ich auf ewig von den Musen Abschied nehmen, und dem herrlichsten aller Kunstwerke, der Monarchie der Vernunft, alle meine Thätigkeit widmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaltotun View Post
    I might not be completely mentally healthy, but count me among those who love the Klemperer recording.
    I don't know enough about the different recordings & I don't have this one but why would people not like the Klemperer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    I don't know enough about the different recordings & I don't have this one but why would people not like the Klemperer?
    I think some people have described it quite well in this thread... it's so massive, slow, stately and overwhelmingly religious, that it's somewhat of an odd-ball. The kind of record that you'll either love or hate.
    Wäre das Faktum wahr, – wäre der außerordentliche Fall wirklich eingetreten, daß die politische Gesetzgebung der Vernunft übertragen, der Mensch als Selbstzweck respektiert und behandelt, das Gesetz auf den Thron erhoben, und wahre Freiheit zur Grundlage des Staatsgebäudes gemacht worden, so wollte ich auf ewig von den Musen Abschied nehmen, und dem herrlichsten aller Kunstwerke, der Monarchie der Vernunft, alle meine Thätigkeit widmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Discobole View Post
    I don't really agree the first Herreweghe is that good. It is a little too empty of drama, and it's one of the worst recordings of René Jacobs singing, he is really off key (funny because the Leonhardt version is one of the best by Jacobs).

    My favorite versions would be :
    1. Harnoncourt I : I never get tired of it, a sense of drama, a theatracality I can't find anywhere else, this is THE Passion to know
    2. Leonhardt : wonderful ensemble and singers, a reference in its style, but I find it a little too "cold"
    3. Harnoncourt II : a little less daring than the first ones (and without the boys voices it is a little less remarkable), but it could be considered as the modern reference

    But let's not forget Herreweghe II (better drama than in the first version), Koopman (not bad at all, it's a shame he is so easily forgotten), McCreesh (interesting 1vpp)
    I have both Herrewehges now & I actually prefer the earlier version. I find the later one too theatrical.

    Can anyone post photos of the covers of the two Harnoncourts so I know which one Discobole was describing? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaltotun View Post
    I think some people have described it quite well in this thread... it's so massive, slow, stately and overwhelmingly religious, that it's somewhat of an odd-ball. The kind of record that you'll either love or hate.
    Yes, I see what you mean. Might get that version later.
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    For Harnoncourt's latest with superb soloists and a lifetime of wisdom.

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    Gardiner's Recording is very nice.

    I dare be known to prefer St. John's Passion to St. Matthew's. Still, you can't go wrong with Bach.

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    Chailly is an excellent pick.

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    The best all round for me is Harnoncourt's latest version. It seems to combine the virtues of period practice with superb soloists and orchestral playing. Of course, there are also many other versions with much to say about this monumental work.

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