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    I invite opinions about using headphones to listen to classical music.
    Apart from practicalities, eg. late-night listening, sharing a flat and so on, how do you feel about the sound? What about comparing on-ear, over-ear, in-ear? Open or closed back?
    Personally, I think the clarity, detail and lack of colouration can be amazing, and heartily recommend Grado SR60; my wife Carol uses a pair with her Roland digital piano too. Out and about I use Sennheiser in-ear buds, as they're a good all-round sound and cut out a lot of extraneous noise.
    Just curious.
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    Headphones are far less expensive than speakers, and as I can’t afford good speakers, I use headphones. With 100€ ($), I have the quality of speakers costing more than 3 000€($)...
    by the way, I am very satisfied with Sennheiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Harwood View Post
    I invite opinions about using headphones to listen to classical music.
    Apart from practicalities, eg. late-night listening, sharing a flat and so on, how do you feel about the sound?

    I can't stand them. They don't sound like an orchestra. They sound like headphones. Some are "better" than others, but the "better" they are the less I like them!

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    Although I prefer listening to classical music on my home audio system, the headphones with the noise-cancelling feature are certainly option do a nice job and are, of course, better than not being able to listen at all !!

    One does not have to pay hundreds of $$ for a good set of headphones. More $$ does not translate into being better in all cases. Before you buy, be sure to listen for yourself if at all possible. If not, then select one with a good range rating (example: 20 to 20kHz).

    I'm not going to recommend any particular brand, as that is always a personal preference ... best advice is to use your ears ... if you like what you hear, then it is ok.

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    I use them now and again but they do tend to overheat the ears lol, I have Sennheiser HD 580 Precision, they are open back, over ear, very clear and you can hear every detail, I have had them a few years now and from memory paid about NZ$600-650, cant stand the ear buds and so unhygienic, so yes I really do give them top marks.

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    Now I'm on parole on this site, I'll mention this other site that deals with headphones.

    My own take is that while the repro is extremely clear on my headphones it obviates the room tone which may explain why headphones can be tiring. It's important to realise that once the auditory nerve receptors are damaged or killed - easier with headphones than you think - they do not recover.

    Anyway:

    http://www.headwize.com/articles/hearing_art.htm

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    On the contrary, Frasier ...

    I enjoyed reading the info on that site - quite informative - I've never read such an in depth study like this before. Certainly, in moderation, headphone use can be a pleasing experience.

    Wondering if the wireless headphones have any less sound qualities than those that are corded?
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    Yes they do have limitations, very little bass for one, and you do have to be careful with the volume, and as you say Fraiser they can become tiring, but the clarity and detail is well worth it. and they are neighbor friendly.

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    Thanks for the link, Frasier. There's plenty there that I, for one, didn't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Harwood View Post
    I invite opinions about using headphones to listen to classical music.
    Apart from practicalities, eg. late-night listening, sharing a flat and so on, how do you feel about the sound? What about comparing on-ear, over-ear, in-ear? Open or closed back?
    Personally, I think the clarity, detail and lack of colouration can be amazing, and heartily recommend Grado SR60; my wife Carol uses a pair with her Roland digital piano too. Out and about I use Sennheiser in-ear buds, as they're a good all-round sound and cut out a lot of extraneous noise.
    Just curious.
    Hello! I suggest you can try to consider Beyerdynamic's product.

    I listen to classical music also, I've 3 headphones, one is Sennheiser's HD 415, second is Beyerdynamic DT440, and the last one is Technics(I don't know the model).In comparing the 3,I think Beyer's acoustic and the clarity is the best, the most realistic. Also very accurate in both high or low frequencies, and its noise cancelling ability is generally to be acceptable.

    I've just tested the 3 headphones by listening to Bach's Passacagnia and Fuge conducted by Stowoski a few days ago. Woh!!!!... Honestly,Technics, throw it away; Sennheiser, OK; only Beyer can show the power and pressure of this arranged orchestral work!!!

    Mine one, DT440 is made in Germany, you can take it as a reference. But as I know Beyer has launched its new model DT660, you can check it out from its site!!

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    Rackman, I was interested in your findings as I also tested my Sennheiser HD 580 to the equivalent [at the time] in Beyerdynamic, and involved a friend to check them as well, we found the Beyer to have a more pronounced bass but the Sennheiser were much clearer and less tiering over a 1 hr listening period.

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    The price of the headphones definitely doesn't say that much. A few months ago, I spent about $80 for a pair (cant remember the brand). They were kinda heavy, very durable, and had a very durable, long coiled cord. However, while using them, the music had a very boxy sound, as if I were listening through a seashell. I sold them, and settled for some plastic ones for $25, which ended up having a much better sound, at least for me. They aren't as durable, but they have been dropped and thrown around on many occasions since and they're still almost as good as new.

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    Eric683, I disagree with you regarding price, you get what you pay for generally, it also depends what price range you are talking about, my cans were purchased over 13-15 years ago and from memory cost about NZ$600, Sennheiser HD 580, they have lasted very well and are looked after so carefully, the sound is crystal clear and is not tiring even after a couple of hours etc, sure they get a bit warm in hot weather and are not a match for a good Hi Fi set up but they are much superior to a second rate stereo set up.
    see this for an old write up.http://www.stereophile.com/headphones/1294senn/

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    When I was shopping for headphones, I had a price range and I also had some personal preferences (sound..."boxy" isnt high quality to me...comfort, durability-- those being the most salient), and, after shopping around, there were some cheap ones which didnt sound very good at all and were uncomfortable, so there are times when cheap is....well....cheap. Then I went up in my range and those didnt seem to work either (boxy, uncomfortable). The pair I use now is just the right type, for me, for casual listening. Im no techie audiophile so spending $600 on a pair of headphones is a bit overkill for just casual listening, I think. They may be worth it for the features, but you also have to consider the use.

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    AKG 271s Great headphone, so light, and so comfortable. It automatically adjusts to your head, and has a "mute" mechanism where if you take off your headphone, the music will be muted.

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