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    Red face Rank these Rings............thought it might be fun.

    Solti, Keilberth, Bohm, Karajan, Barenboim, Haitink, Sawallisch, Krauss, Knappertsbusch 56, Levine, Boulez, Janowski, Furtwangler.

    do what you're familiar with of course. let's see what happens.......

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    Keilberth '55
    Krauss '53
    Solti
    Knappertsbusch '56
    Bodanzky/Leinsdorf Met '37-'41 (cuts/fair to dismal sound--golden age singing)
    Böhm
    Furtwängler '53
    Furtwängler '50 (the studio Walküre show the F rings would shoot to the top with better sound)
    Von Karajan (for Walküre and Siegfried)
    Barenboim (best video)
    Boulez
    Levine (a major letdown)

    I also have parts of Mehta, de Billy, Haitink, Knappertsbusch '51, Kempe '57 and Haenchen SACD. Never heard any part of the rings of Sawallisch or Janowski. I've been looking for an inexpensive CD of the Swarowsky '68 ring. Amazon has it as an MP3 download for 7.99!

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    Top 5 in order of preference money no object........Bohm and Barenboim very cheap now

    Solti
    Bohm
    Keilberth 1955
    Barenboim
    Karajan
    Last edited by DarkAngel; Feb-09-2012 at 01:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    Top 5 in order of preference money no object........Bohm and Barenboim very cheap now

    Solti
    Bohm
    Keilberth 1955
    Barenboim
    Karajan
    i think i'm in total agreement here. thanks for playing.

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    I tried to rank, but it's hard when a cycle has some operas that are better than others. If one has a really good Walkure, does that mean that it's better than one with a really good Siegfried? Hard to compare when there are so many variables.

    I'll say this though... I like Solti, Bohm and Furtwangler (both) a lot. For ones you don't mention, I really like Mehta's Valencia Ring on bluray and Goodall's English cycle. I refuse to spend that much for Keilberth. (I'll wait and swap with someone for it.)

    The only Rings I don't like are Levine and Haitink. They seem bland and redundant to me.

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    Solti/Bohm... (interchangeable... as my top "Ring" picks)... LP and CD
    Barenboim ... (Note: I was not moved by his fire music at the end of der Valkyrie) CD
    Levine... (great seeing Levine live at the Met... but much less so listening on CD, does the visual add that other element?)
    Goodall... (moving and very slow going, but it seems a good fit singing vowels in English) CD
    Karajan... (neither luv his reading or dislike it) LP only

    Mehta's Ring... (the great unknown... I have only seen the sample video on Youtube)
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    Mehta's orchestra is very young comparatively speaking and give him their all. They make a wonderful sound. The singers are consistently solid. No weak links in the main roles singing wise... Some of the cast are a bit chunky. The staging is a bit odd, but it at least follows Wagner's basic stage directions and is always engaging. On bluray with surround sound and a projection system, it can't be beat. I have watched Rhinegold and Walkure and I'm ready to dive into Siegfried now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    Mehta's orchestra is very young comparatively speaking and give him their all. They make a wonderful sound. The singers are consistently solid. No weak links in the main roles singing wise... Some of the cast are a bit chunky. The staging is a bit odd, but it at least follows Wagner's basic stage directions and is always engaging. On bluray with surround sound and a projection system, it can't be beat. I have watched Rhinegold and Walkure and I'm ready to dive into Siegfried now.
    I thought it was impeccably sung and played throughout and on that basis would love a cd version, but the staging was just far too odd for my liking, to the extent that it was a bit offputing. Appreciate that they were trying something a bit different, and I know a great many people liked it, but it reminded me of a 70s/80s sci-fi production I'm afraid

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    1. Solti
    1(a). Keilberth
    3. Böhm
    4. Barenboim (based on what I've heard on radio, admittedly)
    5. Karajan (on the strength of the Walküre alone, pretty much)
    5. Janowski
    6. Levine
    (not recommended) Furtwängler Even Furtwängler can't make ordinary instrumentalists sound like a world-class ensemble. Don't forget about the poor mono sound, either.

    Haven't heard enough of the others to render an honest assessment.

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    1. Keilberth
    2. Solti
    3. Krauss
    4. Bohm
    5. Kempe
    6. Barenboim

    I agree with CTP regarding Furtwangler and I don't like Levine's approach.

    Also check out my post on the recommended Cds thread.
    Last edited by jflatter; Feb-10-2012 at 18:11.

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    I bought the Barenboim DVD and found some extra scenes I have never seen before: The Norns weaving the rope of destiny (very Greek indeed) and the scene where they give a potion to Sigfried to forget about Brünhilde and fall in love with Gutrune. Very new for me. Could somebody explain me if this existed in original Wagner version, and Solti, Furtwangler and other decided to skip them?

    Please help me!

    Martin

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    My Ring is Karajan's. I guess, Karajan approaches Wagner's Ring as an orchestral work, voices included, melting everything like Rheingold into a Gesamtkunstwerk. I never heard such an raving obsession going hand in hand with perfect finesse. My comparison is Solti: a bullying headbanger. Solti's control over the orchestral forces is lacking. Yes, the voices stand out and do grasp the attention, but with Karajan they are transformed into the higher goal of the Gesamtkunstwerk.

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    1. Solti
    2. Karajan.
    3. Levine
    Haven't heard the others yet.

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    Rank these Rings............thought it might be fun.

    Or certain to stir up controversy?

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    Current ranking:

    1. Krauss
    2. Solti
    3. Keilberth
    4. Bohm

    Others I've listened to but can't rank definitively.....Karajan, Barenboim, Janowski, Kempe, Knappertsbuch '51

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