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    There's been a lot of talk this week in the UK about organ donation, largely surrounding our methods for 'harvesting' the organs of people once they're dead. What do you think of organ donation? People often consider it an immense gift, but also something that degrades the human body. I heard one British Muslim woman say today that she would rather watch her children die than allow them to receive another person's organs.

    But all this talk about how we deal with bodies circling the drain distracts from a more pressing, positive message. We can't be apathetic about this issue up until we find ourselves in need, because then it's too late - we all need to be more pro-active, and consider our mortality far in advance. So take five minutes and consider an extremely important question. If one of your relatives was dying and they needed a transplant, would you want them to get an organ? If yes, don't think that it's just a gift you can take that will magically appear in your time of need; put yourself on the organ donor register and promote a culture that is willing to selflessly save lives.

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    I saw this on facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by violadude View Post
    I saw this on facebook.
    Indeed! It must be everywhere because it's important and I want people to see it! Are you on the register?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polednice View Post
    Indeed! It must be everywhere because it's important and I want people to see it! Are you on the register?!?!
    No not at the moment. I wouldn't mind signing up though. Except my kidney's are already bad so no one wants those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by violadude View Post
    No not at the moment. I wouldn't mind signing up though. Except my kidney's are already bad so no one wants those.
    Yeah, I've got a number of organs that'd be useless too. Perhaps if we club together we can get a functioning organ system between us.

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    In Thinking Fast and Slow, the author said that variation in donor donation is almost entirely dependent on how the questionnaire is asked.

    If the questionnaire asks you to "opt out" of organ donation, few people will opt out, therefore, very high donation rates.

    If the questionnaire asks you to "opt in", very few opt in, very low donation rates.

    If you're for donation, the biggest challenge is reforming the "default position" and make organ donation something you can voluntarily opt out of instead of something you opt in.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=ZuK...nation&f=false
    Last edited by brianwalker; Feb-20-2012 at 02:08.

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    So far nobody in this thread has mentioned the Big Bugaboo: Excessive Eagerness to obtain the organ, i.e. "The guy has an infected hangnail, get his liver for the rich guy." Yep, the concept is out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltroll72 View Post
    So far nobody in this thread has mentioned the Big Bugaboo: Excessive Eagerness to obtain the organ, i.e. "The guy has an infected hangnail, get his liver for the rich guy." Yep, the concept is out there.
    Yeah, a concept without precedence. Let's avoid evil doctor conspiracies.

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    I don't think wealth can get you to the top of the list if you need a transplant, but the wealthy can afford to fly anywhere in the world to receive the available organ. Poor folks don't have any money to leave home. Kind of like those unfortunates in New Orleans during Katrina.

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    I was wondering if perhaps an incentive for folks to get themselves on the register would be to give patients in need of an organ a boost on the waiting list if they are on the donors' register themselves. Do you think that sounds reasonable?

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    Well done Polednice for publicising an important issue.

    There is an argument for 'opting out' but for cultural, religious and, to be fair, squeamish reasons it's a very difficult thing to force people to do. But I'm in favour of it.

    I give blood & was on the bone-marrow registry until I got too old.

    I'm signed up as an organ donor & keep mentioning it to my next of kin so they don't forget. If you're signed up you don't need to carry a card but I still do. As far as I'm concerned, after I'm dead they can have any bits of me which might be useful to someone else.

    My Dad donated his body to medical science so when he died his remains were taken to be used for research. We're not a very religious family but we did have a memorial service for him & someone from the medical school read a lesson which would have delighted him.
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    My mother wants to donate her body to medical science and I respect that decision.

    As for donating organs, I don't know if I have anything to offer people. I smoke, so my lungs aren't going to be useful to anyone, my heart for similar reasons, and the amount of crap I eat and drink isn't going to make my digestive/waste processing organs particularly useful to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crudblud View Post
    My mother wants to donate her body to medical science and I respect that decision.

    As for donating organs, I don't know if I have anything to offer people. I smoke, so my lungs aren't going to be useful to anyone, my heart for similar reasons, and the amount of crap I eat and drink isn't going to make my digestive/waste processing organs particularly useful to anyone.
    If I'm not mistaken you are fairly young (in your 20's?), so if even if you stop smoking and drinking only after 10-15 years, your lungs can clean themselves in 5 years.
    And how can you know that you don't have anything to offer? I'd sign up just because there's always a chance I might actually be helpful to someone, and if not - I hope my body will be useful to some medicine students.

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    There is an 'organ donor' line on my driver's license; I've signed it. Most of my organs are probably 'well worn', but the eyes are 'better'n nuthin'.
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    Our youngest daughter received a lung transplant which afforded her two more years of life. Unfortunately she contracted a fungal infection and passed away in the Autumn of 2001. But she did have those two more years with her family and friends and was able to return to her business. Naturally my wife are donors.
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