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    Any harp players here? Under what instrument category the harp belongs in this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurComposer View Post
    . . . Under what instrument category the harp belongs in this forum?
    Here: Strings would probably be the best choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krummhorn View Post
    Here: Strings would probably be the best choice.
    Whoa, 'STRINGS' in classical lexicon are the viol family, the tone initiated and sustained by a bow.

    Harp, Piano are percussion instruments first.

    Secondarily, they are one part of a family called 'chordophones' - instruments with a resonator body with strings being the sound source, which includes the viol family.

    Percussion is anything most generally struck or plucked to initiate the sound - they share the fact the sound cannot be sustained, nor can a crescendo or decrescendo be applied - initial strike or pluck, then decay - that's percussion.
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    I quite agree with PetrB ... the harp and piano are, technically, percussion instruments. And the Harp actually deserves its own category, but there isn't (yet) sufficient enough discussion to create another sub-forum for "chordophone" instruments.

    I only pointed to the "string" forum only because the Harp is likely to garner more activity if its ensuing discussion were in the string forum as opposed to the percussion area.
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    I disagree. Pianos and harps are stringed instruments, not percussion ones.

    Pianos are struck string instruments and harps are plucked string instrument.

    There are even blown string instruments:

    stringed instrument, any musical instrument that produces sound by the vibration of stretched strings, which may be made of vegetable fibre, metal, animal gut, silk, or artificial materials such as plastic or nylon. In nearly all stringed instruments the sound of the vibrating string is amplified by the use of a resonating chamber or soundboard. The string may be struck, plucked, rubbed (bowed), or, occasionally, blown (by the wind); in each case the effect is to displace the string from its normal position of rest and to cause it to vibrate in complex patterns.
    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...ged-instrument

    I know, however, that "cordophones" is a more proper term nowadays, and "strings" is normally used for the violin family.

    Do you know any book or serious link that consider pianos and harps as percussion instruments?

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    I think we are straying far away from the OT ... which was:

    Quote Originally Posted by AmateurComposer View Post
    Any harp players here? Under what instrument category the harp belongs in this forum?
    We could go into an endless debate about instrument families, but that is not the subject of the thread.

    The questions was about which "category" for harp discussions on this forum ... not which "family" it belongs ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krummhorn View Post
    I quite agree with PetrB ... the harp and piano are, technically, percussion instruments. And the Harp actually deserves its own category, but there isn't (yet) sufficient enough discussion to create another sub-forum for "chordophone" instruments.

    I only pointed to the "string" forum only because the Harp is likely to garner more activity if its ensuing discussion were in the string forum as opposed to the percussion area.
    I wholly agree, too - just to avoid the common misconception of piano and harp being 'stringed' instruments. (Organology, for the most part, I think Has to be Only Of Interest, really, to a very few, most of them Organologists.]

    Besides, there is that happy somewhat traditional instrumental combination, with a decent amount of literature, of Harp + strings :-)

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