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    I'll give this a go - I don't really dig whole Mahlers but the "Scherzo" of 5 is unbelievably amazing (it's the only place I really get his whole landler thing and boy is it bittersweet and moving) and the first mvmt of 7 which has all the fun noisy stuff and the awesomely sweet B major interlude in the middle. I'm not one for the ludicrously slow burn Mahler adagios but Elgar 1 adagio has a special place in the world alongside the slow mvmt of Mozart 41 (and Beethoven 9 - duh)

    For snazzy C20 you can't go past the monster 1st mvmts of Walton 1 and Honegger 3. Beethoven 9 Scherzo ties with Prokofiev 5 Scherzo for Scherzos. I'm unlikely to listen to Tchaikovsky at home but I gotta admit he knocked the last mvmt of 6 outta the park. Bruckner peaked on the first mvmt of 9 by a wide margin. Mendelssohn 4 first movement is everything that is good about him. If I had to admit to some Shos, it always thrilled to play the first mvmt of 5

    Two king classic winners? 1st of B9 and last of M40

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    I love Haydn's 103, especially fond of the slow introduction. I prefer 103 to 104; if that's heresy, so be it!
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    It's hard to decide between 103 and 104; I've had my 103 phase too, but am now in a 104 Phase . Somehow, 104 is both serious and Haydnesque at the same time, hehe.

    But they're probably tied in terms of quality. The introduction to 103 is awesome and so is that second movement, love the menacing feel to it and ist orchestration.

    Movement-by-movement faceoff between the two symphonies:

    103 vs. 104:
    1st movement: 104
    2nd: tied
    3rd: 104
    4th: 103
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    I love the third movement of Walton's First Symphony, IMO one of the most beautiful utterances in all the symphonic literature. Also one of the saddest.

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    Too many to quote but LvB produced a few absolute stealers for amongst his.
    Eroica - 2nd movement
    Pastoral - 1st movement
    5th finale
    7th - 2nd movement

    One of my absolute fav Beethoven symphonic movements is the 1st movement from Symphony No.4.

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    Tricky one this but if I had to pick one movement I think
    Schubert 8th 2nd movement
    Nearly chose Haydn 104 1st movement though

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    Some of them have been mentioned, but to me the list is:

    Brahms 1:4, 3:1, 4:4, 1st sextet:2
    Beethoven 3:2, 9:1-4, 7:2, 5:1, 6:2 (it will be shorter if I list those that are not included)
    Schumann 4:4, 1:1
    Schubert 8:1
    Mozart 38:1 and 2, 40:1, 41:1
    Berlioz Fantastique 2 (a Ball)
    Dvorak 9:1-4, 8:1
    Saint Saens 3:3
    Mendelssohn 4:1
    Tchaikovsky 5:4
    Stravinsky Rite´s 1, Petroushka´s 1

    OK, I know this forum is intended to interact, so I will not keep listing favorites. It could be such a long list that I would use the entire space available.

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    Tchaikovsky No. 3 Mvt. 4 - One of the most inspired scherzi in all of music. Glazunov modeled his symphonies after those of Tchaikovsky. This mvt. represents some of the most refined techniques in Tchaikovsky's vocabulary. It is not as concise in musical form and in melodic execution as the scherzo of No. 4, but surpasses it in terms of variety and drama.

    Shostakovich No. 7 Mvt. 4 - A grand finale to a lengthy symphony. A triumphant though somewhat unresolved ending emerges from the haze of the third movement in strange woodwind calls that grow and grow.

    Sibelius No. 3 Mvt. 2 - Snowy moonlight. That's the best I can describe it.

    Rimsky-Korsakov Scheherazade Mvt. 4 - RK combines the melodies from the previous mvts. while introducing several new ones as well in an ingenious end to an already dazzling quasi-symphony. The shipwreck scene still gives me goosebumps every time.

    Brahms No. 4 Mvt. 1 - Every part of this symphony is amazing but the first movement is so powerful and dramatic that it stands out above the rest. No symphonic movement ever approaches the skill and the originality of the sonata form that Brahms executes. The instrumentation is lush and complete as well.

    Britten Sinfonia da Requiem Mvt. 2 'Dies Irae' - Unpopular in concert halls but it's a very interesting listen. It transitions into the quiet third movement with a series of hammered chords passed all the way around the orchestra in disorienting fashion, interrupted by bomb-like thuds from the percussion and low brass. The trill-tongued melody in the winds are very unsettling and resemble radio broadcasting. Definitely worth a listen.

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    For a bit of variation
    Philip Glass - S3 - 1st movement - Power
    Stravinsky - S in 3 movements - 1st Movement - Power
    Bruckner - S9 - 3rd Movement - Visionary
    Walton - S1 - 1st Movement - Power
    Shostakovich - S10 - 2nd Movement - Frenetic
    Prokofiev - S5 - 3rd Movement - Foreboding
    Tan Dun - Symphony 1997 - 5th Movement - Jubililation (the title of the movement even!)

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    Oh movements! I read it wrong the first time:

    Haydn Symphony #102, movement 4, cleverness
    Ives Second Symphony, movement 4, joy to be an American
    Beethoven Seventh Symphony, movement 4, infectious rhythm
    Mahler Symphony #4, movement 4, heaven through the eyes of a child
    Tchaikovsky Symphony #4 movement 2, nostalgically reminding me of my childhood
    Tchaikovsky Symphony #4, movement 4, not to take life so seriously.
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    First movement of Haydn's London symphonies are quite brilliant.

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    Beethoven 9th - 1st movement
    Bruckner 9th - 1st movement
    Mahler 9th - 1st movement

    ... all in D, not a chance coincidence, of course.

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    Mahler 6 adagio

    Mahler 6 final movement
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    No way to narrow it down to a couple movements, so I'll pick my favorite movement from some of my favorite symphonies.

    - Beethoven 9th, 1st Mvt "Allegro Ma Non Troppo, Un Poco Maestoso" (My all-time favorite symphonic movement)
    - Beethoven 7th, 2nd Mvt "Allegretto"
    - Beethoven 5th, 1st Mvt "Allegro"
    - Beethoven 3rd, 2nd Mvt "Marcia Funebre"
    - Beethoven 4th, 2nd Mvt "Adagio"

    - Mahler 1st, 1st Mvt "Langsam Schleppend"
    - Mahler 2nd, 3rd Mvt "In Ruhig Fließender Bewegung"
    - Mahler 4th, 1st Mvt "Bedächtig. Nicht Eilen." or 4th "Sehr Behaglich", tied
    - Mahler 5th, 1st Mvt "Trauermarsch"
    - Mahler 6th, 3rd Mvt "Andante Moderato" or 1st "Allegro Energico. Ma Non Troppo", tied
    - Mahler 9th, 4th Mvt "Adagio. Sehr langsam und noch zurückhaltend"

    - Brahms 4th, 1st Mvt "Allegro Non Troppo"
    - Brahms 1st, 1st Mvt "Un Poco Sostenuto, Allegro"
    - Brahms 3rd, 4th Mvt "Allegro Con Spirito"

    - Bruckner 9th, 1st Mvt "Feierlich, Misterioso" (My 2nd all-time favorite symphonic movement)
    - Bruckner 8th, 3rd "Adagio: Feierlich langsam; doch nicht schleppend" or 4th Mvt "Feierlich, nicht schnell", tied

    - Schubert 8th, 1st Mvt "Allegro Moderato"
    - Schubert 9th, 2nd Mvt "Andante Con Moto"

    - Mozart 40th, 4th Mvt "Finale: Allegro Assai"
    - Mozart 38th, 1st Mvt "Adagio - Allegro"

    - Tchaikovsky 4th, 1st Mvt "Andante Sostenuto, Moderato Con Anima, Moderato Assai, Etc."
    - Tchaikovsky 6th, 2nd Mvt "Allegro Con Grazia"
    "No composer has been more innovative than Beethoven, he radically changed the nature and character of the music composed in the two centuries that followed his earliest works" - Charles Rosen ("The Classical Style")

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    I've got plenty of movements I like, but I only noted one symphonic movement in my notes where one is better than the symphony as a whole:

    Mendelssohn's Symphony No. 1, movement 1

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