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    Is there one famous Conductor you will basically buy everything he has recorded? Is there one Conductor whose recordings you try to avoid ? You can include anyone including those who are long gone to a better place.


    Eugene Ormandy goes in the first category. I have never heard a bad recording from him. He seems very consistent, and gets a great sound from his Philadelphia Orchestra.

    I have to put Leonard Bernstein in the latter category, with a few exceptions. It is almost like he is more important than the musical piece that he is conducting. What do people love about him?


    Please just one answer in each category.
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    Probably Solti, though he has his duds too. I trust him to give me great renditions of post-romantic and beyond music, including the occasional classical exception (his Mozart operas are absolutely great). I'm not trying to buy anything he ever recorded, but I trust him a lot. Other composers in here would be HIP specialists like Jordi Savall, Herreweghe, Hogwood, usually Gardiner (though he has some seriously bad moments), Jacobs. I trust Bernstein and Karajan with specific genres and composers. Gunter Wand for germanic music. Really, one can't be after one conductor only if one likes a lot of totally different genres. I like everything from the Baroque period to the 20th century, though 12-tone music is a nut I've yet to crack. You can't expect me to think that one conductor can take care of it all.


    On the other hand, it's easy to pick the worst: Roger Norrington, the destroyer of music. Another one I used to trust but that lately is disappointing me to the point of making me dread his new recordings is Claudio Abbado. If Gardiner always conducted as he did in his recording of Handel's Fireworks and Water music, he would be on this second list too (but that is his bad exception really, he is great). No conductor can touch Norrington though. .

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    Why was Norrington so popular? He seemed to put a new twist on old warhorses -- he used period instruments, I believe?

    How did he become "a destroyer of music"? That's interesting.

    Regarding Claudio Abbado, I am listening to his Beethoven series with the Weiner Philharmonic right this moment, and loving it. What should I be looking for?
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    I am interested in everything Stokowski recorded, because even when he's wrong it's interesting. I also like Abbado, Szell and Reiner, because they usually sound right, even when they aren't the best. Bernstein is always committed.

    I don't like Ozawa, Haitink or Levine, because they tend to be dull.

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    His recordings, devoid of any soul, dry as a dessert, with his stupid idea of removing vibrato and all modern techniques even off romantic and post romantic music, are usually a disaster. I can't stand him.

    Abbado disappointed me with his recent Mozart symphonies recordings. Also a HIP recording without being HIP, totally devoid of any drama, tension, full of senseless grace and charm with mannerisms galore, fake, that's the word. The Abbado of earlier years (or maybe even today's, but with other music) was a different story.

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    Knappertsbusch:Barenboim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchflorida View Post
    Is there one famous Conductor you will basically buy everything he has recorded? Is there one Conductor whose recordings you try to avoid ? You can include anyone including those who are long gone to a better place.


    Eugene Ormandy goes in the first category. I have never heard a bad recording from him. He seems very consistent, and gets a great sound from his Philadelphia Orchestra.

    I have to put Leonard Bernstein in the latter category, with a few exceptions. It is almost like he is more important than the musical piece that he is conducting. What do people love about him?


    Please just one answer in each category.
    I can't imagine a more boring conductor than Ormandy. Your other point I support.

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    I'd say Kleiber for my favourite, but seeing as his discography is comparatively slim, I think I'd pick Vasily Petrenko. I have many more recordings by more established conductors (the forerunner probably being Haitink who I think records the best Brahms), but Petrenko is of an exciting, younger generation, and while I can feel comfortable stumbling across a new Haitink, Davis, Jarvi or Jansons, I always keep an active look on Petrenko's output as I always enjoy it.

    My least favourite famous conductor is Karajan. I've listened to a fair bit of his output and I haven't liked a single piece - in all of his "periods", I find him to be immensely dry and pedantic. Even with the tolerable recordings, there's always a better conductor with a more recent recording.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polednice View Post
    I'd say Kleiber for my favourite, but seeing as his discography is comparatively slim, I think I'd pick Vasily Petrenko. I have many more recordings by more established conductors (the forerunner probably being Haitink who I think records the best Brahms), but Petrenko is of an exciting, younger generation, and while I can feel comfortable stumbling across a new Haitink, Davis, Jarvi or Jansons, I always keep an active look on Petrenko's output as I always enjoy it.

    My least favourite famous conductor is Karajan. I've listened to a fair bit of his output and I haven't liked a single piece - in all of his "periods", I find him to be immensely dry and pedantic. Even with the tolerable recordings, there's always a better conductor with a more recent recording.
    His Mahler is decent, his Strauss is top tier, and his Wagner, well, it is what it is. His Othello is easily the best conducted and his Bruckner is again among the best. Is there no one else you hate more than Karajan?

    You know I'm not devotee of the Karajan cult but he has his merits. He's original, unlike that Furtwangler ripoff Barenboim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianwalker View Post
    His Mahler is decent, his Strauss is top tier, and his Wagner, well, it is what it is. His Othello is easily the best conducted and his Bruckner is again among the best. Is there no one else you hate more than Karajan?
    Nope, I certainly prefer Barenboim. Unoriginal perhaps, but listenable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moody View Post
    I can't imagine anyone much more boring than Orma
    Agreed. Never even heard of him.


    If you meant Ormandy, I listen to him as background music sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    I am interested in everything Stokowski recorded, because even when he's wrong it's interesting. I also like Abbado, Szell and Reiner, because they usually sound right, even when they aren't the best. Bernstein is always committed.
    That inspired me to start listening to Stokowski's latest release "Icon: The Maverick Conductor". Parts are quite amazing and the sound quality is surprisingly good. It is a 10 CD set , so it will take a while to get through the entire collection. (I have a music service, so didn't need to buy the $60 boxed set.) Plus I will have to remember to listen to Fantasia . . is that highly regarded?
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    All-Time Favorites - Bernstein and Mackeras
    Least Favorite - Karajan

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchflorida View Post
    Agreed. Never even heard of him.


    If you meant Ormandy, I listen to him as background music sometimes.
    It said Ormandy, I don't know what you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitchflorida View Post
    That inspired me to start listening to Stokowski's latest release "Icon: The Maverick Conductor". Parts are quite amazing and the sound quality is surprisingly good. It is a 10 CD set , so it will take a while to get through the entire collection. (I have a music service, so didn't need to buy the $60 boxed set.) Plus I will have to remember to listen to Fantasia . . is that highly regarded?
    "Fantasia" is a Walt Disney film and Stokowski conducted the music, it is very good.

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