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    47 65.28%
  • Falstaff

    25 34.72%
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Thread: Meistersinger vs Falstaff

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    Default Meistersinger vs Falstaff

    2 of my favorites. how do you think they stack up?

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    Falstaff!! Sir John Falstaff!!
    Ann

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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    Falstaff!! Sir John Falstaff!!
    why am i not surprised?

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    H. L. Mencken once said Die Meistersinger "took more skill to plan and write it than it took to plan and write the whole canon of Shakespeare". And Mencken was more of a Brahmsian than a Wagnerite.

    Irretrievably, Meistersinger!

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    In our highly authoritative () Top Operas thread, Falstaff came it at 43. Still, I won't argue too strenuously with anyone who says that we placed it a little low. Meistersinger, on the other hand, cracked the Top-10.
    The hardest knife ill us'd doth lose his edge. Shakespeare- Sonnet 95

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    I voted Meistersinger, but I still love Falstaff dearly . Again, this is a futile comparison of apples and
    Oranges. Both operas are towering masterpieces, each great in its own way .
    Falstaff is quicksilver, mercurial whimsical ,swiftly flowing , and Meistersinger is broad ,expansive, majestic and unhurried , but with plenty of vivacious passages .
    Both are wonderfully humorous as witty. No one could claim that Wagner had no sense of humor after getting to know Die Meistersinger. Both operas are full of witty dialogugue and sarcastic putdowns .
    The way Beckmesser garbles the words of his stolen Meisterlied is hilarious. If you don't know German, read the translation and compare the text of Walther's exalted original with the way Beckmesser messes it up.
    It reads like one of those weird, surreal beatnick poems of the 60s !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    2 of my favorites. how do you think they stack up?
    They are so different that this poll is pointless.

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    I vote for this one:


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    let's make every single variation of Wagner vs. Verdi.

    for the sole purpose of really beating everyone over the head with the fact that should go without saying, Wagner is infinitely superior to Verdi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moody View Post
    They are so different that this poll is pointless.
    don't be such a curmudgeon, Moody man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    don't be such a curmudgeon, Moody man.
    You will note that Superhorn said the same thing, don't you tell him off then?
    If you want to do these polls there must be some sensible point to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanGesamtkunstwerk View Post
    let's make every single variation of Wagner vs. Verdi.

    for the sole purpose of really beating everyone over the head with the fact that should go without saying, Wagner is infinitely superior to Verdi.
    I have seldom seen such nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superhorn View Post
    I voted Meistersinger, but I still love Falstaff dearly . Again, this is a futile comparison of apples and
    Oranges. Both operas are towering masterpieces, each great in its own way .
    Falstaff is quicksilver, mercurial whimsical ,swiftly flowing , and Meistersinger is broad ,expansive, majestic and unhurried , but with plenty of vivacious passages .
    Both are wonderfully humorous as witty. No one could claim that Wagner had no sense of humor after getting to know Die Meistersinger. Both operas are full of witty dialogugue and sarcastic putdowns .
    The way Beckmesser garbles the words of his stolen Meisterlied is hilarious. If you don't know German, read the translation and compare the text of Walther's exalted original with the way Beckmesser messes it up.
    It reads like one of those weird, surreal beatnick poems of the 60s !
    I think Superhorn is on the money with this one.

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    i think this is avery sensible pole.

    2 comc operas in different styles.

    whats up, Moody?

    i like you anyway.

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    Moody's just being moody.

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