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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    I believe what you mean is that you consider Boulez a great composer and conductor and that that's all you care about.

    Considering that Boulez has always been much discussed and often controversial, it's clear that many other people, including the author of the above article posted by someone not me, do care about more than his musical skills.
    There are lots of personal reminiscences on the internet right now about Boulez the man. By all accounts he wasn't a bad guy at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isorhythm View Post
    There are lots of personal reminiscences on the internet right now about Boulez the man. By all accounts he wasn't a bad guy at all.
    Here's a very nice one: Barenboim on Boulez.


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    Here's another:


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    Quote Originally Posted by aleazk View Post
    Here's a very nice one: Barenboim on Boulez.
    Thanks for the video--I'm enjoying it.

    By the way, Barenboim posted one of the most elegant tributes I've seen so far on his Facebook page:

    “Today, the music world has lost one of its most significant composers and conductors. Personally, I have a lost a great colleague, a deeply admired creative mind and a close friend. Pierre Boulez and I first met in Berlin in 1964 and there have been few fellow musicians with whom I have developed such a close and important relationship in the 52 years that followed – even though we always stuck to the formal “vous” when speaking to each other, a rarity in our rather informal world, but from my side, certainly, an expression of my deepest respect and admiration.

    “Creation exists only in the unforeseen made necessary”, Pierre Boulez once wrote. With this belief as his paradigm, Pierre Boulez has radically changed music itself as well as its reception in society. He always knew exactly when he had to be radical because it was a necessary requirement for music and society to develop. He was never dogmatic, however, but always retained his ability to develop himself further. His development was based on a deep knowledge of and respect for the past. A true man of the future must know the past, and for me, Pierre Boulez will always remain an exemplary man of the future.

    Pierre Boulez has achieved an ideal paradox: he felt with his head and thought with his heart. We are privileged to experience this through his music. For this, and so much more, I will always be grateful.”

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    Boulez certainly saod some extraordinary things. Like blowing up opera houses and importing red guards from Mao!'s reign of terror.

    http://opera.archive.netcopy.co.uk/a...-blow-them-up-

    He reminds me of some of the left wing students of the 60s when I was at unversity. Great fans of Mao and Lenin. I don't think they quite understood what life was like under such people. Or indeed during the reign of terror of the French Revolution which Boulez also quotes, seeming approvingly!
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    ^I'm curious...do you and all the other people who quote that interview sincerely believe that he meant that stuff literally? Like he actually wanted someone to blow up the opera houses with explosives and have Maoist Red Guards rounding people up?

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    Just ignore him, he's on a troll's rant today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isorhythm View Post
    ^I'm curious...do you and all the other people who quote that interview sincerely believe that he meant that stuff literally? Like he actually wanted someone to blow up the opera houses with explosives and have Maoist Red Guards rounding people up?
    Probably not, but it makes for a good strawman. This entire forum could stuff a barn full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahlerian View Post
    Here's another:

    Beautiful tribute from the Cleveland Orchestra. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Boulez certainly saod some extraordinary things. Like blowing up opera houses and importing red guards from Mao!'s reign of terror.

    http://opera.archive.netcopy.co.uk/a...-blow-them-up-

    He reminds me of some of the left wing students of the 60s when I was at unversity. Great fans of Mao and Lenin. I don't think they quite understood what life was like under such people. Or indeed during the reign of terror of the French Revolution which Boulez also quotes, seeming approvingly!
    He reminds me of Beethoven who greatly admired Napoleon and all he stood for, which also included the reign of terror. Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isorhythm View Post
    ^I'm curious...do you and all the other people who quote that interview sincerely believe that he meant that stuff literally? Like he actually wanted someone to blow up the opera houses with explosives and have Maoist Red Guards rounding people up?
    If he didn't mean it why did he say it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    If he didn't mean it why did he say it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    If he didn't mean it why did he say it?
    You must be fun at parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isorhythm View Post
    You must be fun at parties.
    An absolute riot!

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