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    Billy, where do you get your inspiration from? And maybe for you 14th symphony you could make it a bit of a contrast from the rest.
    I love Muzio Clementi's music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beetzart View Post
    Billy, where do you get your inspiration from? And maybe for you 14th symphony you could make it a bit of a contrast from the rest.
    Heh, regardless of the quality of the work, it's astonishing that he seems to be able to churn out an hour long work (I'm assuming) in a matter of hours. I'd definitely be interested to see what he could do if he concentrated his effort and spent a month or two on a project of the same length.
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    Back to work on another symphony:

    Symphony Fourteen:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We5sAeo7jCo

    Billy McBride

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComposerOfAvantGarde View Post
    Billy, my only advice for you: get a composition teacher. The above feedback and criticism is all too true.
    I wouldn't say that is necessary. Not if he isn't doing it for a career.

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenOBrien View Post
    Heh, regardless of the quality of the work, it's astonishing that he seems to be able to churn out an hour long work (I'm assuming) in a matter of hours. I'd definitely be interested to see what he could do if he concentrated his effort and spent a month or two on a project of the same length.
    I think this is the point (although most after 3 are about 20 mins not an hour)

    I remember writing music at approximately a rate of 10 minutes composition to 1 of music for a couple of years after I started. Most of it was, uh, not very good - though I may flatter myself there are some good ideas there, if inadequately treated.

    Self-criticism. A composer, any kind of artist, must be ruthlessly self-critical. A certain amount of detachment - that is viewing the composition as an object to be listened to, not just composed - is also invaluable. A discerning ear is also important - to be able to hear what is good and what is not - and that is acquired by listening to music you like. An understanding of what makes music function - lots of things. Motivation to write - makes you write: motivation to improve? - helps you to improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDesire View Post
    What a symphony should be? Sorry but there really isn't any criteria for what a symphony should be, besides a large-scale, multi-movement orchestral piece. Its a pretty vaguely defined genre.
    I agree that there isn't a widely agreed definition of a symphony but I think most people who use the word would want to say that it has connotations of seriousness and purpose which a dance suite drawn from a ballet doesn't have even if it is a "large-scale, multi-movement orchestral piece". And, why exclude single movement symphonies? You can't be arguing that SIbelius 7, Harris 3 or Brian 10 aren't superb symphonies.

    Here is David Matthews quoted on his publisher’s website: " The first piece I composed was a symphony, and I have been obsessed with the form - which was well defined by Hans Keller as "the large-scale integration of contrasts" - ever since." (Faber Music)

    I think Keller's definition is a good one. It underlies at least some of the posts on this thread and offers a comparative, relative test of symphonic credentials. In any work purporting to be a symphony, where are the contrasts? Contrasts of theme, harmony, timbre, rhythm, tempo, structure, emotion. How well are the contrasting elements united into a coherent whole? Is it "large-scale" - which might be interpreted as, does it deal with big issues? So Prokofiev's first, while being a symphony for sure, is lightweight, it doesn't have the reach or scope of say his sixth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Marchant View Post
    I agree that there isn't a widely agreed definition of a symphony but I think most people who use the word would want to say that it has connotations of seriousness and purpose which a dance suite drawn from a ballet doesn't have even if it is a "large-scale, multi-movement orchestral piece".
    I agree. I would say that a symphony is an orchestral piece (by convention) which stands, and is intended to stand, on its own two feet as a piece of music (as opposed to a concerto, an overture etc.). Of course programmatic elements could confuse this, but don't stop my basic definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramako View Post
    I agree. I would say that a symphony is an orchestral piece (by convention) which stands, and is intended to stand, on its own two feet as a piece of music (as opposed to a concerto, an overture etc.). Of course programmatic elements could confuse this, but don't stop my basic definition.
    Well, I agree that an overture doesn't stand on its feet by itself (though let's not discount composers writing overtures which could be performed in concert as a way of promoting their operas). But a concerto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Marchant View Post
    Well, I agree that an overture doesn't stand on its feet by itself (though let's not discount composers writing overtures which could be performed in concert as a way of promoting their operas). But a concerto?
    Not properly orchestral. It is about the interplay between orchestra and soloist(s). A symphony is plain orchestral music.

    I know it is a definition with many flaws, but many definitions do. It distinguishes it from music to accompany something else (from ballet to film to opera (again not exactly))

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDesire View Post
    What a symphony should be? Sorry but there really isn't any criteria for what a symphony should be, besides a large-scale, multi-movement orchestral piece. Its a pretty vaguely defined genre.

    That being said, I agree that the music could use more development, more ideas. It is pretty bland.
    Getting a curious sense of deja vu here!

    I'm sure it would be easy enough to name a string of composers who (were they still alive) be quite clear about the form of a traditional symphony, in what ways they wrote in conformity with it, and where they understood they were breaking with the tradition.

    I hesitate to name them.

    The 'problem' with language - all language, not just that used to discuss music - is that it evolves through use and misuse. If 'symphony' is being used simply to mean 'big and serious' then it could be applied by anyone who wishes to take themselves seriously to anything of a half-decent length! With greatest respect to Billy, I'll be listening to more established composers to explore the symphony and its many variants.
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    dafuq. did you just finish 2 symphonies in one day?
    "That as s."

    - Mark Twain

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    My Sixteenth Classical Symphony:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZ_GO495Qk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    My Sixteenth Classical Symphony:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZ_GO495Qk
    Now where have I heard that before?
    I love Muzio Clementi's music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    My Sixteenth Classical Symphony:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKZ_GO495Qk
    Now I think you're just a troll. I believe (as has been suggested before in this thread) that you are just recording random 'improvisations' on your keyboard. There is no other way you could be churning out so much audio drivel so quickly. The 'music' has no worth whatsoever. I think you know this and you're just trying to wind us up.

    Maybe you should find a new hobby?

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