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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramako View Post
    I don't mean throughout the symphonies, I mean within two minutes. On a whim I followed the horn part and found a repeating motif that was in the violin part as well at different times. There was some more stuff like that as well. I think I now know how to listen to these. Probably.
    I know what you meant. He has written over 15 hours of random music, at some point during that, within 2 minutes like you said, something interesting has to occur just by shear probability, not intention.
    I love Muzio Clementi's music.

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    Classical Symphony Thirty-Four:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylap15hap2Y
    "If a Musical Piece and a Critic’s head collide, and there is a hollow sound, is it always the Musical Piece’s fault?” - variation on a quote by Lichtenberg

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    Gnostic Classical Symphony No. 1:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aHOJagE5Tk
    "If a Musical Piece and a Critic’s head collide, and there is a hollow sound, is it always the Musical Piece’s fault?” - variation on a quote by Lichtenberg

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    A symphony(or two) a day, keeps the psychiatrist away.

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    Gnostic Classical Symphony No.2:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4T9KL09D-o
    "If a Musical Piece and a Critic’s head collide, and there is a hollow sound, is it always the Musical Piece’s fault?” - variation on a quote by Lichtenberg

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    Your symphonies believe in God now? :P

    They seem like a step backwards from your #33.

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    Gnostic Classical Symphony No.3:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5gIQxqTxk4
    "If a Musical Piece and a Critic’s head collide, and there is a hollow sound, is it always the Musical Piece’s fault?” - variation on a quote by Lichtenberg

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    Gnostic Classical Symphony No.4:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NorOdxONAM
    "If a Musical Piece and a Critic’s head collide, and there is a hollow sound, is it always the Musical Piece’s fault?” - variation on a quote by Lichtenberg

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    What is the point with all these "symphonies" ? Why would you improvise at the keyboard 2-3 hours a day of random music instead of doing only 5-10 minute of more valuable music ? Instead of having 40 "symphonies" by now you would have had only one or two, but real symphonies. Does this "music" really satisfy you ? I find it a bit depressing and boring. Why having 20 hours or so of random music, which no one listens to, when you can have only one hour of quality music ? There are many tutorials on youtube on how to compose orchestral music, and it is not very difficult, just needs some dedication from you, that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renaissance View Post
    What is the point with all these "symphonies" ? Why would you improvise at the keyboard 2-3 hours a day of random music instead of doing only 5-10 minute of more valuable music ? Instead of having 40 "symphonies" by now you would have had only one or two, but real symphonies. Does this "music" really satisfy you ? I find it a bit depressing and boring. Why having 20 hours or so of random music, which no one listens to, when you can have only one hour of quality music ? There are many tutorials on youtube on how to compose orchestral music, and it is not very difficult, just needs some dedication from you, that's all.
    I agree. This is getting silly now, I mean what is he trying to prove? He has been given advice and not taken it, so perhaps we should all write random 'symphonies' to show how easily it can be done.

    Billy, composing isn't about being prolific, it's about hard work and trying to find satisfaction in a piece. You call your symphonies 'classical' yet they are not. Listen to some Haydn symphonies to get an idea of how it is done, he would sometimes start with a brooding introduction then it would burst into life in a major key with a tempo usually of allegro. He would compose in sonata form, are you aware of how that works? The 2nd movement would usually be much slower, adagio or largo, in a relative major key, possibly in sonata form again. The 3rd movement a minuet and trio, and the last movement a quick presto that would be quite lively and shorter then the 1st movement. Haydn wrote 104 of these but over a long working lifespan, and I'm sure he put much effort into each one, especially the latter ones.

    Can I ask if you can actually read music, or do you understand any basic music theory? I notice with your books that you read out that you have a terrible prose, and you seem to have transferred this to your compositions.
    I love Muzio Clementi's music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenOBrien View Post
    Your symphonies believe in God now? :P

    They seem like a step backwards from your #33.
    I'm almost sure I saw a link to Gnostic symphonies before on the side of the youtube page: are these actually new?

    Quote Originally Posted by beetzart View Post
    I notice with your books that you read out that you have a terrible prose, and you seem to have transferred this to your compositions.
    You bought his books?

    Listening to no. 34 I think it is better than the earlier ones and Gnostic no.1 and 2 (by a quick judgement). I think Billy probably has a somewhat skeptical attitude towards theory, which is not exactly unusual. Even in history. He doesn't read music, it says elsewhere (or at least he didn't). He is interested in the golden ratio and stuff like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramako View Post
    He is interested in the golden ratio and stuff like that.
    Well, even in this case is very important to know some theory. Golden ration applied to what ? It is still necessary to have a basic knowledge of intervals, frequency of different musical notes, and so on. It is fun to do experiments in music, I myself do such 5-10 minute experiments but that is just for the sake of fun. For example, take the piece below, that I wrote in 5 minute. See that, Billy ? I can make "music" as fast as you do.
    Last edited by Renaissance; Aug-15-2012 at 10:51.

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    No I haven't bought his books, Ramako, but listened to him read extracts from them on You Tube. Earlier on in this thread I posted a particular 'comedy' of his.
    I love Muzio Clementi's music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beetzart View Post
    No I haven't bought his books, Ramako, but listened to him read extracts from them on You Tube. Earlier on in this thread I posted a particular 'comedy' of his.
    Oh right, ok. Sorry . Yeah I listened to a bit of it.

    I wonder whether he has a presence on other forums?

    EDIT: sorry if you are offended by us calling you 'he' Billy, but you do rarely engage in conversation with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramako View Post
    Oh right, ok. Sorry . Yeah I listened to a bit of it.

    I wonder whether he has a presence on other forums?

    EDIT: sorry if you are offended by us calling you 'he' Billy, but you do rarely engage in conversation with us.
    It comes across as spamming almost. I thought this was a forum was about posting your works to discuss them with other composers and get feedback, not to merely advertise them and ignore most of the discussion about them :S.
    Last edited by StevenOBrien; Aug-15-2012 at 14:49.

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