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    Default What are the weirdest Composers?

    Looking for composers that write stuff that make you go wtf was that? That's so random. Most likely late 20th Century/Early 21st Century stuff obviously fits this title the most. Adding electronics to it is ok.

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    Weird to your ears may not be weird to mine. Even if I do encounter some "weird" sounding music, I'd never think of it as random. No need for a composer if that were the case.

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    You can't tell me that Avant-Garde music sounds normal. Part of the joy of listening to that type music is the randomness of it. But I'm thinking more extreme Avant-Garde. Going further out than the norm.

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    John Cage's 4'33"

    HA! I said it first

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    I don't know what you mean by randomness? If a piece of music is composed (organized sound structures) how can it be random?
    Just because it's atonal or dissonant doesn't mean the notes are randomly chosen.

    Cage's 4:33 is not a composition in my mind. It's an allotment of time for the audience to listen to unorganized sounds around them. If Cage wants to call that his composition, that's fine, but he didn't organize the sounds. He just sort of staged a scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    I don't know what you mean by randomness? If a piece of music is composed (organized sound structures) how can it be random?
    Just because it's atonal or dissonant doesn't mean the notes are randomly chosen.

    Cage's 4:33 is not a composition in my mind. It's an allotment of time for the audience to listen to unorganized sounds around them. If Cage wants to call that his composition, that's fine, but he didn't organize the sounds. He just sort of staged a scenario.
    I didn't say there were randomly playing notes. I said that I think it sounds random to the listener. Obviously, they were organized in a way to get that kind of sound. Atonal in itself sounds chaotic. Atonal music has been around awhile now. But obviously some make atonal sound weirder and more surprising than others.
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    You might try Nono.

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    J Strauss II

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComposerOfAvantGarde View Post
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    Yeah those tonal Composers are really weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoshredder View Post
    Yeah those tonal Composers are really weird.
    His music certainly makes me go "wtf was that?"

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    One from 'left field.' Florence Foster Jenkins was a singer not a composer, but the way she mangled opera songs does not speak to faithful interpretation of these scores. Its more like she was extemporising on these arias, etc. Here she is murdering a Mozart aria:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtf2Q4yyuJ0
    Old Wolfie would be turning in his grave. & audiences in early 1900's actually flocked (& paid!) to see/hear her, she was very popular. Proves that sometimes what is 'bad' can actually be so 'bad' that its 'good' in a wierd way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid James View Post
    One from 'left field.' Florence Foster Jenkins was a singer not a composer, but the way she mangled opera songs does not speak to faithful interpretation of these scores. Its more like she was extemporising on these arias, etc. Here she is murdering a Mozart aria:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtf2Q4yyuJ0
    Old Wolfie would be turning in his grave. & audiences in early 1900's actually flocked (& paid!) to see/hear her, she was very popular. Proves that sometimes what is 'bad' can actually be so 'bad' that its 'good' in a wierd way.
    It certainly makes this sound good.

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    Cornelius Cardew. I remember seeing a documentary on avant-garde music and, if I remember correctly, one piece by him featured a man shaving, closely miked so that the rasp of the razor was caught on sound. I think someone else was making noise with household articles - possibly a cup or a spoon. Cardew was also filmed responding to an interviewer's question by using a different pitch for each syllable of his reply. I have one work by him - an extract from his epic The Great Learning - but I admit that it has never really grabbed me like various contemporary works by other composers.

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    Pierre Boulez definitely makes me go "wtf?"

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