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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    And YouTube! Does anybody listen to these works through headphones? I find that they sound less harsh, and you can really focus on the details of each player's parts as well as the collective whole in the stereo spectrum.
    Always, all works on headphones Probably not the best habit to have gotten into as now, speakers don't cut it for me if I want to listen critically. But headphones are awesome.

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    Excellent comments on the Bartok Quartets:



    I like the Euclid SQ very much, from what I’ve heard of them, and enjoy the energy behind their playing that has a certain refinement rather than harshness. They seem to fully understand the wide range of Bartok’s emotional expression and can express it. I love hearing these Bartok Quartets through audiophile headphones. It’s equivalent to me to hearing every detail through $5000 to $10,000 speakers. It’s a matter of investing in the right ones that can be used for hours without listener fatigue. Everything is revealed and the volume can be adjusted perfectly without disturbing others. I believe the quality of Bartok’s Quartets are just out of this world, partly because you can see so much of his personal development in them and lead to a greater understanding of his other works. He has his influences but his own voice and individuality is so recognizable and strong.
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    I should have bought a good pair before the last high end audio store in town closed up. Now there's only garbage at the mass retail stores like Best Buy. I have a 40 dollar pair of Radio Shack phones that sound okay but they hurt my ears after 30 minutes or so.
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    Well now that i finally discovered at least 3 maybe 4, not sure whats in my collection, but surely i have 3 keeepers,,bartok wrote some UNREAL SQ's.
    Previously with other records,,i had issues with his SQ's.
    Now with the correct performances, i can now see how great these SQ's really are in their essence.
    I wouid say of all SQ's in the CM, Bartok's are the most sensitive to performance quality. ,,,well maybe extend this quality issue to Schoenberg, Elliott Carter, Schnittke.
    With these 4 composers, I must have something which reflects the essence of the music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    I should have bought a good pair before the last high end audio store in town closed up. Now there's only garbage at the mass retail stores like Best Buy. I have a 40 dollar pair of Radio Shack phones that sound okay but they hurt my ears after 30 minutes or so.
    I just have the Sennheiser HD280 Pro's. Not bad for $100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    I just have the Sennheiser HD280 Pro's. Not bad for $100.
    As long as they're light and comfortable. Since I'm not a tenured professor or corporate vice president, a hundred bucks is within my budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    As long as they're light and comfortable. Since I'm not a tenured professor or corporate vice president, a hundred bucks is within my budget.
    I'd highly recommend them then. There's a pair of Audio Technicas in the same price range that look nice too, but I haven't spent near as much time with them, couple friends of mine have the same pair. ATH-M30x, I believe. I've also heard good things about the Grado SR80e headphones too, same price, and specifically in the context of classical music. But I have never tried them.

    Anyway, I'm far from an audiophile and someone else can probably provide more specific and better advice. I just know good sound when I hear it, and I really love those Sennheisers.

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    I have a feeling that as I get older or if I move across the country, I may be listening to music with an android phone and a pair of headphones like all the kids today. Everything is already available on streaming networks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    I'd highly recommend them then. There's a pair of Audio Technicas in the same price range that look nice too, but I haven't spent near as much time with them, couple friends of mine have the same pair. ATH-M30x, I believe. I've also heard good things about the Grado SR80e headphones too, same price, and specifically in the context of classical music. But I have never tried them.

    Anyway, I'm far from an audiophile and someone else can probably provide more specific and better advice. I just know good sound when I hear it, and I really love those Sennheisers.
    I have those Grado phones. Bought a like new pair for $50. But new the are $99. I got a pair of the G earpads and they are now the most comfortable headphones I have ever had. Great sound. But know what you are getting. They are open backed headphones and the sound is different than that of my sennheiser headphones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    I'd highly recommend them then. There's a pair of Audio Technicas in the same price range that look nice too, but I haven't spent near as much time with them, couple friends of mine have the same pair. ATH-M30x, I believe. I've also heard good things about the Grado SR80e headphones too, same price, and specifically in the context of classical music. But I have never tried them.

    Anyway, I'm far from an audiophile and someone else can probably provide more specific and better advice. I just know good sound when I hear it, and I really love those Sennheisers.
    Sennheiser have always made class headphones (and now earbuds). For earbuds the Klipsch R6i IIs are terrific for under £100, Starthrower. I use a pair of AKG Y50s for infrequent headphone listening from my amp and a cheap pair of £30 Betrons on my phone / tablet / laptop. Most of my listening is through speakers (spare room or in the car).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    Sennheiser have always made class headphones (and now earbuds). For earbuds the Klipsch R6i IIs are terrific for under £100, Starthrower. I use a pair of AKG Y50s for infrequent headphone listening from my amp and a cheap pair of £30 Betrons on my phone / tablet / laptop. Most of my listening is through speakers (spare room or in the car).
    I have had bad luck with Sennheiser build quality (had one defective out of the box that they refused to acknowledge was defective, another that failed after a few years). I now listen mostly on Beyerdynamic T1's. I also have Denon AHD2000's and AKG 701's which I sometimes use.

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    My favorite budget phones (IEMs actually) are HiFiMan RE-400s - now less than $40 at Amazon.

    Here's a review that I concur with:

    "If you love bass heavy thumping music, then don't bother with these buds. These buds are not for you. The bass is underwhelming. If you don't take care of your stuff, then these buds are not for you. The buds do not feel like they'll take much abuse. If you want to impress your friends with the glamour materials and a sweet logo, then these buds are not for you. They look simple to the point of boring. If you want to hear new detail of analog recorded music that you've listened to for decades, don't mistreat you stuff, and your self-worth doesn't depend on impressing flakes who do not care about you anyway, then these are a great buy for the price. For $20 bucks more than what I get from Target, I can hear the sound booth acoustics change around different instruments on the same song. Depth and detail are great. Worth the extra twenty bucks. No question."

    Note - the broken cables are a real issue. Even with careful use these things will break. But I got more than 4 years out of my first pair. The models without the mic seem somewhat better constructed. And you may want to spring for the Comply tips.

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    the Takacs will be performing all 6 Bartok quartets this fall in New York: https://www.92y.org/event/takacs-quartet

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    I'm still a speaker advocate. I use headphones when recording to pan things in the stereo field, but that's all.

    I suspect that people use headphones because it makes the deficiencies of MP3s and low-rez files disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    I'm still a speaker advocate. I use headphones when recording to pan things in the stereo field, but that's all.

    I suspect that people use headphones because it makes the deficiencies of MP3s and low-rez files disappear.
    I love listening to chamber music and solo piano (CD quality or better) through quality headphones (Oppo/Focal/Sony noise-cancelling when circumstances call for it).

    I also listen to lossy recordings on my iDevices.
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