View Poll Results: Which Ring Reigns Supreme?

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    18 81.82%
  • Karajan's Ring Cycle

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Thread: Poll: Karajan Vs. Solti in a Battle Of The Rings

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    Default Poll: Karajan Vs. Solti in a Battle Of The Rings

    Two of the best selling Ring Cycles have decided to meet in a throwdown.

    Fighting out of the red corner, Sir Georg Solti's Ring Cycle. Recorded between 1958-1965, it was the first Stereo Studio Recording and still tops many lists, even today.

    Fighting out of the blue corner, Herbert Von Karajan's Ring Cycle. Recorded between 1966-1970, the 2nd Stereo Studio Recording was considered by many to have been an improvement with better conducting allowing more nuances of the Ring to be heard.

    So which Ring do you prefer? Cast your vote.

    (NOTE: This is not a recommendation. Yes, I know there are other rings out there. This is just for fun and to see which ring from these two titans reigns supreme on the Talk Classical Forum)
    Last edited by realdealblues; Oct-09-2012 at 16:26.

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    Why just two? Karajan's Rhinegold is excellent. Solti has a good Gotterdammerung. For the rest, I'd choose from other Rings. Walkure, I'd choose Walter 1935 for the first act and Leinsdorf for the rest. Siegfried would be either Goodall or Janowski.

    If I had to pick just one, it would be Furtwangler RAI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    Why just two? Karajan's Rhinegold is excellent. Solti has a good Gotterdammerung. For the rest, I'd choose from other Rings. Walkure, I'd choose Walter 1935 for the first act and Leinsdorf for the rest. Siegfried would be either Goodall or Janowski.

    If I had to pick just one, it would be Furtwangler RAI.
    The choice is only between these two rings. These are the two classic/most popular/bestselling "Studio, Stereo" Ring Cycles. Bohm, Furtwangler, etc are either Live or Mono. I am considering doing another poll with them later on. I just thought it would be fun to pit these two sets against each other to see which was more popular among listeners on this forum.

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    And so far Solti has jumped out to a 3 to nothing lead.

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    I would bet right now Janowski is the best selling Ring. It's a great performance overall and it costs a fraction of the price of the others.

    Solti is probably the best "beginners" Ring though.

    Someday I'm going to create a poll with two choices, "stereo" and "mono". It seems these are primary characteristics of recordings to a lot of people. I tend to choose based on the performance myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
    I would bet right now Janowski is the best selling Ring. It's a great performance overall and it costs a fraction of the price of the others.

    Solti is probably the best "beginners" Ring though.

    Someday I'm going to create a poll with two choices, "stereo" and "mono". It seems these are primary characteristics of recordings to a lot of people. I tend to choose based on the performance myself.
    Since the Janowski was re-released in the cheap packaging I have no doubt it is selling well. But it was recorded in the 80's.

    I'm trying to keep similar characteristics with the poll. The Solti & Karajan recordings are from roughly the same time period as well as being studio/stereo, etc.

    If I were to do a poll with the Janowski cycle I would make the other choices Haitink & Levine, because they were all studio and all roughly recorded during the same decade.

    Go for it man...do a Mono vs. Stereo Poll...

    I'm just trying to have some fun and give everyone something to vote on.

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    I voted for Solti. It was the first Ring I have ever heard, so for me it is the Ring.
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    Wow, that's 5 votes for Solti and 0 for Karajan.

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    Karajan for Das Rheingold and Die Walküre and Solti for Siegfried and Götterdämmerung. Personally, they are both "required"... but then again, so is Clemens Krauss, Hans Knappertsbusch, and Joseph Keilberth. If there is a single "best"... I'd probably go with Keilberth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realdealblues View Post
    If I were to do a poll with the Janowski cycle I would make the other choices Haitink & Levine, because they were all studio and all roughly recorded during the same decade.
    You'd need to add Boulez and Barenboim too because those weren't live recordings either.

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    i love em both, but if i must its Solti.

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    I voted for Solti, but my favorite Ring cycle recording is made by neither Solti nor Karajan. It's Janowski. The best I've heard.
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    What dumbass voted for Karajan?

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    I own the Janowski set, but from what I've heard of the Solti Ring (highlights), I think Solti has the edge. Hans Hotter *is* Wotan

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    Wow, I honestly thought it was going to be a little closer but it appears to pretty much be a blow-out.

    Solti 12
    Karajan 1

    I don't think Karajan can recover from that beating. I left this poll open for a while but I think it's going to be pretty clear that from these two titans, Solti stands victorious.

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