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    I think it proper time that this composer gets his own guestbook. I've not seem him talked of a lot on TalkClassical, which is likely because he is simply so obscure. But he was extremely prolific, and composed very well-crafted works. He is German/Swiss, but definitely didn't follow in the steps of music German Romantics, that is, dark, dense, dramatic, and instead is a much lighter shade. He seems to have preferred woodwinds too, over brass, which is unusual for a German composer.

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    My favorite stuff so far are his symphonies. He made 4 in a Seasons Cycle, and I will post one great favorite:



    The 2nd movement is absolutely charming!
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    I've a lot of his chamber works. The string octet is a marvel. IMHO, best of 19Th.century after Mendelssohn's.

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    I like quite a few of Raff's works. I have heard most of his symphonies and the 3rd and 5th are very nice. I also really like his octet. In addition the Piano Quartet No. 1 is lovely. There is also a symphonic work, the Italienische Suite, that I would like to get. I have the impression that I could be rather happy listening to just about everything he wrote.

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    Joachim Raff has his very own website, very complete and actively updated. You can subscribe to a monthly update listing the new items.

    http://raff.org/

    I have a fair collection of Raff, from the days when I thought I might actually find something compelling in his music.


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    I thought "Winter" the best of his four seasons symphonies.

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    Blogged this about him in 2011 (link):

    Today we highlight the perhaps most criminally neglected composer of all time: German master Joachim Raff (1822-1882). Although he was one of the most popular composers of his time, he was quickly forgotten, except for his contributions as assistant and occasional orchestrator of Franz Liszt (one suspects that he had an even greater part in Liszt's orchestrations than the great man admitted himself). Only in recent years, he is starting to get the attention he deserves as one of the best romantic masters, highly skilled in orchestration and a continuous source of wonderful themes, thanks to enterprising labels like Tudor, CPO and Naxos. I have listened to all his 11 symphonies and concertos, and a good part of his chamber music, and personally I rate him higher than Liszt. His masterpiece is the spooky Lenore symphony (his 5th), one of the best in the genre of programmatic symphonies. Since that one is not yet in the Naxos catalogue, I have selected the monumental first symphony, titled To the fatherland, over 70 minutes of unashamed romanticism, and an excellent introduction to his work. The Rheinland-Pfalz Philharmonic Orchestra under Samuel Friedmann does a great job here, and this disc is warmly recommended. If you check out only one new composer in 2011, you could hardly make a better choice than Raff (provided you do not already know him of course).
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    Swiss, not German. Do not insult him.
    Last edited by Hassid; Nov-17-2012 at 11:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hassid View Post
    Swiss, not German. Do not insult him.
    He was born in Lachen in Switzerland which makes him German Swiss.
    Last edited by moody; Nov-17-2012 at 12:04.
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    ... from German parents who were in exile....
    I treat my music like I treat my pets. It’s something to own, care about and curate with attention to detail. From a blog by hjr.

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    I am dumb with surprise that such a skillful composer went forgotten. What a pity...

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    Still listening to his symphonies. He is what I definitely seek into a romantic composer. Thank you, Huilunsoittaja for bringing him here on TC.
    Last edited by Renaissance; Nov-17-2012 at 16:37.

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    Switzerland (the Swiss Confederation) is split into three main linguistic and cultural regions : German,French and Italian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moody View Post
    Switzerland (the Swiss Confederation) is split into three main linguistic and cultural regions : German,French and Italian.
    It's the Italian-Swiss part that gave us all those recordings issued on the Aura label and its relatives. Much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltroll72 View Post
    It's the Italian-Swiss part that gave us all those recordings issued on the Aura label and its relatives. Much appreciated.
    But what about all those excellent records from British Decca of Ernest Ansermet and the Suisse Romande Orchestra ( Orchestra of French-Speaking Switzerland) ?
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    Wrong thread
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