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  • no 1 (op. 15)

    3 3.03%
  • no 2 (op. 19)

    2 2.02%
  • no 3 (op. 37)

    13 13.13%
  • no 4 (op. 58)

    41 41.41%
  • no 5 'Emperor" (op. 73)

    40 40.40%
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Thread: What is the best of Beethoven's piano concertos

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    Default What is the best of Beethoven's piano concertos

    Before this week, I had only listened to no 5. I got a CD including all the five (Pollini-Abbado-Berliner Philarmoniker). So, now, I will be able to see if the 5th is really the better (however, friends of mine say that the 4th is better)

    Anyway, what is your opinion? What is the better?
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    No opinions?
    At first, I discovered the wonders of classical music through the marvels of its baroque period and especially those from Mr. Handel, which explain my forum nickname. About 10 years ago, my interest leaned over classical period and Herr Haydn's production. The music bus recently drove me to the early 1800s. Where will it end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handel View Post
    No opinions?
    My personal favorite is currently PC # 3, but it was # 4 for a long time.

    I am not sure which is considered the "best", but I'd venture money that # 5 would win.

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    I can't possibly discuss one work of Beethoven's being "better" than another. How do we define "better"? Compositionally more innovative, greater posthumous reputation, more melodic/harmonic appeal?

    I can only say which one I like "better", which is the 4th Piano Concerto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexameron View Post

    I can only say which one I like "better", which is the 4th Piano Concerto.
    This is what I mean.
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    No 4 is truly great. (first movement in particular). A great "discovery".
    At first, I discovered the wonders of classical music through the marvels of its baroque period and especially those from Mr. Handel, which explain my forum nickname. About 10 years ago, my interest leaned over classical period and Herr Haydn's production. The music bus recently drove me to the early 1800s. Where will it end?

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    For the 1st, and 2nd movement alone i choose the 5th concerto, but the 3rd movement just doesn't work for me (its like listening to Mozart instead of Beethoven). So I choose the 3rd concerto as a whole. I haven't heard the 4th concerto yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troyr31sg View Post
    the 3rd movement just doesn't work for me (its like listening to Mozart instead of Beethoven).
    Interesting. I actually think the final movement is a grand rondo that is typical of Beethoven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troyr31sg View Post
    I haven't heard the 4th concerto yet.
    It is a must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opus67 View Post
    Interesting. I actually think the final movement is a grand rondo that is typical of Beethoven.
    I like them both, but I can understand why one would think that. And even to me, in agreement with troyr31sg, I believe that the 3rd mvt's to the 1st, 3rd and 4th (and, to mention other Rondo movements, namely that of the first violin concerto) are characteristic of the quintessential Beethoven rondo finales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexameron View Post
    I can't possibly discuss one work of Beethoven's being "better" than another. How do we define "better"? Compositionally more innovative, greater posthumous reputation, more melodic/harmonic appeal?

    I can only say which one I like "better", which is the 4th Piano Concerto.
    I personally disagree. Some works are better than other in the standard musical sense i.e. they are better built, flawless counterpoint, development,....etc. Moreover, some works are better than others being more emotionally mature...and this "I guess" takes some learning to say. Of course what matters at the end is the personal taste...no shame in that, but mind you that this changes a lot with maturity of the personal taste itself.

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    I prefer each one to each one of the others.

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    I don't know what "best" means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav View Post
    I don't know what "best" means.
    I'm sure you don't.

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    Smile They are all beautiful!!!

    It is a really difficult question....
    I would say no. 4 or 5... but the no. 3 is REALLY
    They are all so different, AND special, in theyr own way!!!
    But I just LOVE the first movement in no. 4
    and the second in no. 5....

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