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    Just ordered this one which has a fine bass vocalist, Matthew Rose.
    Last edited by Fritz Kobus; Feb-02-2019 at 07:13.
    "All of Italian opera can be heard in [Bellini's] "Ah! non creda [mirarti]."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    Agree, though she is listed as mezzo-soprano, so I guess she qualifies in the soprano category?
    She is a Mezzo-soprano

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    Oh wow! An orchestrated version. Sound clips here.
    I have heard it. Ruins Schubert's effects to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    Oh, I have Lois Marshall. Why was I thinking she is mezzo. Perhaps because the CD cover says she is, but Google searches say she is a soprano.
    I see that Mr Kuerti is the accompanist. With a name like that, he was destined to play keyboards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    She is a Mezzo-soprano
    Look at her bio and repertoire, which screams “soprano”.

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    I haven't heard the other recordings mentioned, but I have this one with Jonas Kaufmann and enjoy it.

    schubert1.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    Look at her bio and repertoire, which screams “soprano”.
    I guess the real proof is in the listening and as I recall, she sounds rather mezzo on the Winterreise recording. This was done later in her life, so maybe her voice transitioned down with age?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    The best one is probably Lotte Lehmann's, but the one by Lois Marshall is also fine. The only other one I can think of is Barbara Hendricks'.
    I forgot about the recording by Margaret Price, with Thomas Dewey:

    winterreise price.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz Kobus View Post
    Just ordered this one which has a fine bass vocalist, Matthew Rose.
    It's excellent. If you like a bass voice in this cycle, try Günter Groissböck:

    winterreise groissbock.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    It's excellent. If you like a bass voice in this cycle, try Günter Groissböck:

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    Better still, Hans Hotter.
    Remember that the lesser of two evils is still evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyIII View Post
    I haven't heard the other recordings mentioned, but I have this one with Jonas Kaufmann and enjoy it.

    schubert1.jpg
    Yes good - in the ~John Vickers mould but not so extreme

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    I really like the (late) Fischer-Dieskau with Alfred Brendel from 1985. Maybe it adds to the credibility as both performers are in the fall or even winter of their musical career. I also very much follow Peter Schreier with Richter, live in Dresden at the re-opening festivities of the Semperoper, also in 1985, in the fall of the GDR's existence. Interestingly, both recordings were made within 5 moths and in Berlin and Dresden. Must have been something in the air that year in that part of Germany.

    I find the Hans Zender orchestration interesting, from a musical point of view. The Leiermann, just painful with its dissonants... However, the drama and isolation of the song cycle is better served with a single piano.

    One of the pinnacles of music, the Winterreise.

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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iW04f0olXUY

    Try this out for something different but just delightful.
    Remember that the lesser of two evils is still evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLAdriaan View Post
    I really like the (late) Fischer-Dieskau with Alfred Brendel from 1985. Maybe it adds to the credibility as both performers are in the fall or even winter of their musical career. I also very much follow Peter Schreier with Richter, live in Dresden at the re-opening festivities of the Semperoper, also in 1985, in the fall of the GDR's existence. Interestingly, both recordings were made within 5 moths and in Berlin and Dresden. Must have been something in the air that year in that part of Germany.

    I find the Hans Zender orchestration interesting, from a musical point of view. The Leiermann, just painful with its dissonants... However, the drama and isolation of the song cycle is better served with a single piano.

    One of the pinnacles of music, the Winterreise.
    Unfortunately, bronchitis was in the air for the Schreier / Richter performances. Surely in this digital age engineers can eliminate the irritating coughs?

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