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    bigshot, your enthusiasm for listening to 5.1 sound finally got me off the schneide and investigating center speakers. First I connected a small 'bookshelf' there; the results were dismal. Then I dug out an el cheapo JBL center speaker (came from a JBL 'Flic 1' set I think). Better, but the center channel has too much to do to work well with that puny a speaker. So... I sprung a C note for a Pioneer C22.

    5.1 is a fine thing. My receiver can do PL I processing, and this vivifies stereo recordings wonderfully too.

    Thanks for the, ah, encouragement, bigshot.

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    You know you can send private messages, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo View Post
    You know you can send private messages, right?
    Sure. But then people could still be in ignorance about bigshot's good deeds. The deal is, no good deed here goes unpunished.

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    Haha I know...hopefully the sacrifices we all make in internet forums will one day be recognized...history will be our judge!!

    Seriously though, I apologize for my post, I was in a foul mood.
    Actually, I'm very interested with the subject at hand myself.
    I recently got a Smyth Realiser (google it, trust me) and am trying to find good 5.1 records.
    So far I've downloaded about 5 but there are very few downloads for 5.1.
    Most are for chamber music but I'm a symphony man (I did download the Grieg string quartet though (op.27) and it's unbelievably impressive. It feels like I have a violin player in my room)
    I'm debating whether I should get a good SACD player...but I looked around for 5.1 SACDs without much success...maybe you could point me in the right direction? By the way what setup do you have?

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    Glad you like it. I'm totally sold on 5:1. Lots of astounding stuff on DVD and bluray. You don't have to turn your TV on if you just want to listen.

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    The next step is to buy a multi-channel SACD player--or a universal Blu-ray/SACD player. Once you've gone multi-channel, it's hard to go back to stereo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    The next step is to buy a multi-channel SACD player--or a universal Blu-ray/SACD player. Once you've gone multi-channel, it's hard to go back to stereo!
    I have a few issues with that generality.

    1.) Older recs don't do SACD well, and most top-rung performances of classical music core (for sake of argument 'core' could mean 150 composers) were done pre-SACD.

    2.) In my SACD experiences (auditions only), I found the bigger genres (opera, symphonies) have the best chance for success.

    3.) But as always, there are no guarantees. Some fail the technological demands miserably for classical music. Movies fare better.

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    Movies and classical/opera videos that were recorded in multichannel sound.

    Blu-Ray is the format, not necessarily SACD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    I have a few issues with that generality.

    1.) Older recs don't do SACD well, and most top-rung performances of classical music core (for sake of argument 'core' could mean 150 composers) were done pre-SACD.
    Actually, I find that quite a few older recordings greatly benefit, especially some of the 3-channel RCA and Mercury re-issues. Also, Pentatone and Alla Vox have remastered some quadraphonic recordings from the 70s and 80s that sound fantastic in their new iteration. A few of the Alla Vox ones seem to synthesize the rear channels, but the master tapes that Pentatone uses are true 4-channel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontrapunctus View Post
    Actually, I find that quite a few older recordings greatly benefit, especially some of the 3-channel RCA and Mercury re-issues. Also, Pentatone and Alla Vox have remastered some quadraphonic recordings from the 70s and 80s that sound fantastic in their new iteration. A few of the Alla Vox ones seem to synthesize the rear channels, but the master tapes that Pentatone uses are true 4-channel.
    I've heard a few of those RCA 3-channel SACDs. I don't think that center channel was intended to be isolated like that in playback; don't like the effect. Don't like it. Don't.

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    I was listening to something the other day... I forget what it was. But it was from the 70s, and I could tell there was a pair of mikes covering the whole orchestra, then they had mixed in details using a third mike. How could I tell? The idiot engineers must have had the detail mike out of phase, because it kept turning up on the rear channels where the DSP sends out of phase reverb info.

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