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Thread: FYI.......ArkivMusic reissues are NOT just like the originals.

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    Exclamation FYI.......ArkivMusic reissues are NOT just like the originals.

    The packaging and cds are not nearly as professional looking.
    They don't look like the originals at all.
    Just letting you know.

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    Uh, o.k. I think it is the quality of the engineering and what is on the disc itself that most people care about.

    Have you gotten past the surface yet to where you have formed an opinion of what is actually on the discs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrB View Post
    Uh, o.k. I think it is the quality of the engineering and what is on the disc itself that most people care about.

    Have you gotten past the surface yet to where you have formed an opinion of what is actually on the discs?
    The discs play fine, but you can usually buy the discs professionally made in cheap reissues. Most folks see the original packaging on these and may think the quality is as good as originals.
    It is not.

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    I think it's pretty much self evident that they won't be packaged the same. They're on demand CD-Rs aren't they? Where else are you going to get these?

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    just trying to help.
    it wasn't self evident to me.

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    Angry Even more annoying than that...

    I picked up a "Shostakovich 5/Shostakovich 9" by Rahbari & Belgian Radio Orchestra. [Which still, God help me, is my favorite version of 5.] On this disc, the break between the end of 5 and the start of 9 is amateurishly brief- and to me bespeaks of lack of attention to detail.

    Can't say it's not worth c. $8... but it's still annoying---
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    just trying to help.
    it wasn't self evident to me.
    I applaud your intent. Keep up the good work.

    The Arkiv 'reissues' are CD-Rs produced under license from the record company, of recordings that company no longer markets. Many of the original issues are still available in the 'marketplace', however. The attractiveness of the Arkiv product depends largely on the 'going price' of the originals in that marketplace.
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    The worst part about CD-R's is that they are not as durable as traditional CD's. They lack the coating of plastic over the aluminum that lets traditional CD's still play even if minor scratching. Minor blemishes on CD-R's can be fatal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
    The worst part about CD-R's is that they are not as durable as traditional CD's. They lack the coating of plastic over the aluminum that lets traditional CD's still play even if minor scratching. Minor blemishes on CD-R's can be fatal.
    The plastic is there. The Problem is the Pits.
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    I have many very old CD-Rs and DVD-Rs and I haven't found any duds yet. They are more susceptible to smudges though and very old players sometimes balk at them.

    However, one thing to realize with recordable media is that all CD-Rs are not created equal. Memorex stock would error for me as I was burning it. I use Taiyo Yudin and I have no problems.

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    What CD-Rs does AM use? And, are there any drop-outs or other problems reported? Guarantees?

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    I'm sure it's guaranteed. I buy DVD disks on demand from Warner Archive and they are using Taiyo Yudin. Most bulk burning places do I think.

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    I've only purchased one, Alexis Weissenberg's Rachmaninoff Sonatas No.1 & 2...no complaints on any level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    What CD-Rs does AM use? And, are there any drop-outs or other problems reported? Guarantees?
    There were a few reported problems early on, the CD-Rs replaced. Haven't seen any lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrB View Post
    Uh, o.k. I think it is the quality of the engineering and what is on the disc itself that most people care about.

    Have you gotten past the surface yet to where you have formed an opinion of what is actually on the discs?
    I think the important thing to understand, here, is that ArkivMusic reissues are burned onto CD-Rs, which will oxidise within a few years.

    Professional CD recordings are stamped onto 'closed' discs. CD-Rs are burned into a surface that is left open to the air, and will, in time, oxidise.

    This is the same problem as with storing/archiving of any files on CD-R.

    As I see it, the best way to approach an ArkivMusic reissue is to immediately copy it to a couple of external HDDs, and then periodically back-up the recordings when one HDD dies.

    This is the problem with digital media: it isn't as permanent as people would like to think.

    *I am from a photography/image manipulation background; I've been dealing with all of this for years.

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