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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
    I'm not sure if you mean this seriously or whether it's more of a tongue-in-cheek comment

    If it's a serious comment I would be completely astonished if you still hold this view after a few more years of listening to classical music. Whereas the appeal of Beethoven might loom large now - and I'm not doubting that his music often does appeal to noobs because of its romantic flavours, exciting sounds and strong dynamism etc - it is quite usual to find that one's interest in this style of music sooner or later gives way to other styles/composers, if not completely at least partially.

    In related threads, several people on this forum have said they started out with Beethoven but then moved onto developing a liking for other composers. I've met people on some forums who went so far in this direction that they finished up hating Beethoven. Even if you don't go as far as that, I'm pretty sure that one day you will that Beethoven by no means had a monopoly of creative genius in the field of classical music. Other composers, both before and after Beethoven, have made some equally brilliant contributions to the art. The trick at an early age is not to become mesmerised by any one composer, but to be more open-minded.
    I don.t accept your remarks in any way at all , when do you think I might grow out of him--I mean I'm only 74. by the way I like any number of other composers. You must make the effort not to sound so condescending,it jars.

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    Artemis, Beethoven is almost universally considered one of the top three composers or all time for a reason, and that reason is not because his music is noob friendly. To be grouped with Bach and Mozart is no small thing and the late quartets and piano sonatas are hardly noob music! I agree that musical tastes evolve over time, but it is just as likely that they can evolve towards Beethoven as away from him. That being said, this is a Schubert thread, and my esteem for that genius's music grows and grows. I am currently hooked on his string quintet and the great last piano sonata.

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    For those British fans of Schubert... 9 days of Schubert on Radio 3

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16990281

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    Franz Schubert is my hero. To honor him, i made the website http://www.franzpeterschubert.com

    I hope Schubert lovers like it.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by fpschubert View Post
    Franz Schubert is my hero. To honor him, i made the website http://www.franzpeterschubert.com

    I hope Schubert lovers like it.

    Cheers
    Wow! I just visited your website and I love it! Very informative.

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    Schubert is my second-favorite composer of all-time, behind Mozart. lately, I have been listening to a lot of Schubert, though, as I have just started up an all-Schubert internet radio station called "Franz Schubert Radio". The station website is http://www.franzschubertradio.com. Feel free to give it a listen. I am open to suggestions, or even requests. I am endeavoring to play as many songs as I can. Currently, there are about 70 songs in the playlists, which includes most of the more well-known ones. The station broadcasts 24 / 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fpschubert View Post
    Franz Schubert is my hero. To honor him, i made the website http://www.franzpeterschubert.com
    Your website on Schubert is truly wonderful. Thank you for doing this, and for sharing it.

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    I've only started listening to him recently. I love his music. I'm listening to his E Minor Overture right now.

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    Schubert is the man!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fpschubert View Post
    Franz Schubert is my hero. To honor him, i made the website http://www.franzpeterschubert.com

    I hope Schubert lovers like it.

    Cheers
    Your site's nicely constructed and easy to navigate. Congrats, and best of luck with hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peeyaj View Post
    Schubert is the man!!
    Peeya, you love Schubert. Tonight I downloaded Die schone Mullerin, and a collection of Renee Fleming Schubert Lieder. I already own Winterreise. That is the extent of my Schubert lieder. Listening to Renee Fleming,I just teared up and I need more! What do I need to build my lieder collection? The more I listen to Schubert, the more I feel his early death was the greatest loss to music,ever. He wasn't Mozart. He was Schubert! Forgive me, I have had a few fine ales tonight. And I devote this evening to Schubert!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Peeya, you love Schubert. Tonight I downloaded Die schone Mullerin, and a collection of Renee Fleming Schubert Lieder. I already own Winterreise. That is the extent of my Schubert lieder. Listening to Renee Fleming,I just teared up and I need more! What do I need to build my lieder collection? The more I listen to Schubert, the more I feel his early death was the greatest loss to music,ever. He wasn't Mozart. He was Schubert! Forgive me, I have had a few fine ales tonight. And I devote this evening to Schubert!
    Some famous examples to get you started:
    An die Musik -My personal favorite!
    Nacht und Träume -As well as this one
    Der Erlkönig
    Gretchen am Spinnrade
    Der Tod und das Mädchen -Source material for 2nd movement of String Quartet No.14
    Der Wanderer -Source material for 2nd movement of Wanderer Fantasy
    Die Forelle -Source material for 4th movement of Trout Quintet

    Also check out the last song cycle Schwanengesang, which contains the famous Ständchen.
    Last edited by pjang23; May-02-2012 at 08:39.

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    @Muddy

    Topaz, one of the Schubertians here in TC posted a small selection of his favorite Schubert' Lieder here: Franz Schubert - Composer of the Week, January 22, 2007

    Here are they:

    1. Small Selection of Lieder:
    Nahe Des Geliebten (D 162)
    Erlkonig (D 328)
    Litanei Auf Das Fest Allerseelan (D 343)
    Lied eines Schiffers An Die Dioskuren (D 360)
    An Die Musik (D 547)
    Im Abendrot (D 799)
    Nacht und Traume (D 827)
    Die Junge Nonne (D 828)
    Ellens Gesang III (Ave Maria) (D 839)
    Im Fruhling (D 882)
    Standchen (D 889)
    An Silvia (D 891)
    Das Lied Im Grunen (D 917)
    Leise flehen meine (D 957/4)
    Der hirt auf dem felsen (D 965

    Special mention to his "Auf Dem Strom" for voice, piano and horn. It is gorgeousness itself.

    One of my Schubert favorite is Auf Dem Wasser Zu Singen which was featured in the movie, Battle Royale. It is a great song.

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olHrIU_ptpo[/yt]

    @Pjang23

    Thanks.. ^_^

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    Thanks for the recomendations! Loving Schubert more and more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post
    I'm not a big fan of either composer, because, in my opinion, I don't hear anything in their music that is as distinctive as say a Bruckner or Sibelius symphony, but without Beethoven's innovative way of phrasing, we would be lost. The same could be said about Schubert too. Without him...we wouldn't have had the great Beethoven.
    Indeed: Schubert was a defining influence on Beethoven! Or, exactly the other way around! Or something like that.
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