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    I came to a striking realization this evening...

    I think when I go for my masters I would like to do an emphasis on Baroque and Modern music for a Performance Masters degree!
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    I came to a striking realization this evening...
    Well, from my experiences... the more &#39;striking&#39; the realization, the sonner it&#39;ll fade away. :P
    Why the sudden urge?
    U mean you&#39;ll do a write up for your Masters?
    Interesting topic you&#39;ve got then. But I think it&#39;s detrimental to the brain cells...seems a tedious topic to me. I can imagine the no of word count in my mind already&#33; 10000 words, packed, squeezed and in small fonts.

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    Originally posted by Thomas@Jul 22 2004, 06:27 AM
    Well, from my experiences... the more &#39;striking&#39; the realization, the sonner it&#39;ll fade away. :P
    Why the sudden urge?
    U mean you&#39;ll do a write up for your Masters?
    Interesting topic you&#39;ve got then. But I think it&#39;s detrimental to the brain cells...seems a tedious topic to me. I can imagine the no of word count in my mind already&#33; 10000 words, packed, squeezed and in small fonts.
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    ok striking isn&#39;t the best word... but I never actually took it "seriously" as an option... But I&#39;ve been thinking about it a lot. I&#39;m a member of the Penn State Baroque Ensemble, which I truly enjoy. I&#39;ve worked with several composers... enjoyed that. And I realize, hmmm... this is what I like to do. Both going back to period style playing and playing modern music is a challenge. AND I always LOVE challenges. So, I guess it isn&#39;t a sudden urge.

    I assume for a Masters degree program, that there would be a big paper to write. Dunno, depends on the school and the program you go into... Hey anyone, know which schools are known for Baroque and Modern Violin Performance Studies in the USA.

    OH, and I go to Penn State, I do enough papers as it is, so it&#39;s not too huge a deal for me.
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    Carmignola's reissue by Sony is my 1st ever recording of a Period-Instrument Ensemble. I bought it out of impulse coz i was so pissed of that day.

    At first i hated their playing. I didn't understand. Then i begin to like HIP. So far i have three versions in my library and love them. Carmingola's, Biondi's and the latest by Amandine Beyer w/ Gli Incogniti on Zig-Zag Territoires. All three play on Manuscript version with all Four Lightning/Thunder played. J'adore !!!!

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    Baroque sounds better at first but then gets repetitive after many listenings. Romantic takes a longer time to get into but has much more variety if you are patient enough to listen through ultra long movements.

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    I think some people have a difficult time seeing Baroque music's emotion because much of it fits into a certain mold or style. Romantic music may be more diverse but that doesn't make it more emotional. Personally I love both era's (perhaps Romantic a little more) but I can't say that either has more emotion.
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    Baroque sounds better at first but then gets repetitive after many listenings. Romantic takes a longer time to get into but has much more variety if you are patient enough to listen through ultra long movements.

    The Baroque is no more or less "repetitive" than any other musical style. After listening to Romantic music for a long time, you notice certain common elements and feel that the lesser composers come of as more of the same ol' sh**. This is no different from the Baroque. I jump around so much from style to style, era to ear, genre to genre, that I don't tend to get wrapped up in an obsession with a single artist/style or burned out on the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoshredder View Post
    Baroque sounds better at first but then gets repetitive after many listenings. Romantic takes a longer time to get into but has much more variety if you are patient enough to listen through ultra long movements.
    Romantic sounds better at first but then gets repetitive after many listenings. Baroque takes a longer time to get into but has much more variety if you are patient enough to listen through ultra intricate movements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodecaplex View Post
    Romantic sounds better at first but then gets repetitive after many listenings. Baroque takes a longer time to get into but has much more variety if you are patient enough to listen through ultra intricate movements.
    I think Baroque has such a unique sound to it. Too unique actually. It's hard not to sound repetitive with a sound that comes out strong. Most noticeable is the harmonic minor scale. That scale is used a ton in baroque music. Romantic music uses it as well but it is much more disguised. But yeah I still love Baroque. I need the variety though of the Classical Era and Romantic Era to keep it more fresh and not just listen to Baroque. Vivaldi being my favorite of the Baroque period. And Baroque pieces are much shorter. I don't see how you can reverse my statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoshredder View Post
    I think Baroque has such a unique sound to it. Too unique actually. It's hard not to sound repetitive with a sound that comes out strong. Most noticeable is the harmonic minor scale. That scale is used a ton in baroque music. Romantic music uses it as well but it is much more disguised. But yeah I still love Baroque. I need the variety though of the Classical Era and Romantic Era to keep it more fresh and not just listen to Baroque. Vivaldi being my favorite of the Baroque period.
    No 20th century, Renaissance or Medieval era for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by violadude View Post
    No 20th century, Renaissance or Medieval era for you?
    I've heard some. Didn't like it as much as the eras I've mentioned. But yeah I shouldn't just rule them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoshredder View Post
    I've heard some. Didn't like it as much as the eras I've mentioned. But yeah I shouldn't just rule them out.
    That is interesting. As someone who started out in the classical world, it seems to me that a person who is into metal music (assuming by your username) would really like the clashing-ness of at least early 20th century music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoshredder View Post
    I think Baroque has such a unique sound to it. Too unique actually. It's hard not to sound repetitive with a sound that comes out strong. Most noticeable is the harmonic minor scale. That scale is used a ton in baroque music. Romantic music uses it as well but it is much more disguised. But yeah I still love Baroque. I need the variety though of the Classical Era and Romantic Era to keep it more fresh and not just listen to Baroque. Vivaldi being my favorite of the Baroque period. And Baroque pieces are much shorter. I don't see how you can reverse my statements.
    Read it again. I said intricate, not long. And despite the fact that the entire era was dominated by complex and intricate music, I'm sure you know which specific Baroque composer I'm referring to when I use the word intricate.
    Also, I never said you should only listen to baroque. A healthy and open minded music lover should explore everything from Orlando Gibbons to Xenakis*. All I did in my post was turn your statement against itself.

    *An even healthier one would dig as far back as the Ancient Greeks. Or who knows, maybe even further than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by violadude View Post
    That is interesting. As someone who started out in the classical world, it seems to me that a person who is into metal music (assuming by your username) would really like the clashing-ness of at least early 20th century music.
    I like early 20th century stuff I guess (Rachmaninov and Stravinsky) But Minimalism is not my thing. And Baroque translates great on guitar. Here are 2 examples.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodecaplex View Post
    Read it again. I said intricate, not long. And despite the fact that the entire era was dominated by complex and intricate music, I'm sure you know which specific Baroque composer I'm referring to when I use the word intricate.
    Also, I never said you should only listen to baroque. A healthy and open minded music lover should explore everything from Orlando Gibbons to Xenakis*. All I did in my post was turn your statement against itself.

    *An even healthier one would dig as far back as the Ancient Greeks. Or who knows, maybe even further than that.
    Yes Bach had quite the variety. Nonetheless, I was mainly talking about the Concertos. I love concertos of Baroque but it can get repetitive as I mentioned. And the understanding of music theory is huge for this period to know exactly what to do. I'm not trying to act like an expert on this. I just go by from what I hear. And it seems like the Romantic Period branched out more to get more sounds.

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