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    We have a new game. After Paul:

    Hovhaness' Great Whale with Partch's Puny Hitchhiker

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    well let me say this, women sure havea hard time getting Debussy right,,,whats up with that?
    Ravel they can get, not Debussy, I can't find even 1 female recording artist with a successful release.
    As I say, with Ravel, we can locate a few descent recordings, Not so in Debussy, None available. Anyone gota clue to this puzzle?
    Debussy requires a distinctive poetic spirit which a woman comes up short on, is the answer.

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    The pairing of Ravel and Debussy is to me the most satisfying and fertile A/B comparison in CM. The two quartets, the harp pieces, the Spanish-inspired works, the personal back-and-forthing between the two men as both rivals and mutual inspirations. And the whole bodies of each's works. We are fortunate that they occupied the same musical time and much of the same space.
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    Very nice post,
    I wonder just what Debussy meant in his comment to Ravel about his SQ, written,,,,wait be right back,,,,,Ok Debussy premiered his SQ in 1893 at age 31,,Ravel 1903, age 28.
    Something along the lines *its perfect do not change a thing*.
    I can only imagine the feelings that went through Debussy in his 1st hearing of the work.
    We are lucky, we have cds and can play the masterpiece at will, all day long if we want to,,dif interpretations.
    makes us appreciate the treasures on our shelf.

    still, i am curious as to why women can not get Debussy right....anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbest View Post
    well let me say this, women sure havea hard time getting Debussy right,,,whats up with that?
    Ravel they can get, not Debussy, I can't find even 1 female recording artist with a successful release.
    As I say, with Ravel, we can locate a few descent recordings, Not so in Debussy, None available. Anyone gota clue to this puzzle?
    Debussy requires a distinctive poetic spirit which a woman comes up short on, is the answer.
    That's not true; all grandmothers love "Claire de Lune."
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    so so true.
    but truthfully, if you are driving along in traffic, and the FM has CdeLune on,,,it does not grab you too?


    Look, you got me on that one,,,but you have lots to answer the Debussy topic,,which i surmise you are cking out now and thinking how to respond.
    I hold to my idea, women have a rough go at Debussy, now why is this so true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulbest View Post
    Look, you got me on that one,,,but you have lots to answer the Debussy topic,,which i surmise you are cking out now and thinking how to respond.
    I hold to my idea, women have a rough go at Debussy, now why is this so true?
    Debussy just did what the hell he wanted to. Maybe Ravel had a harder time with the academy, but that's why I respect them both. I mean, pieces like "Jeaux" and the Preludes Book II, Debussy is just so good. But yes, I recognize the singular voice of Ravel. Gaspard de la Nuit is proof of that.
    "The way out is through the door. Why is it that no one will use this method?"
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    Travincek SQ/Points Classics budget label, just arrived , 1st Class Mail from Georgia , just now,,,Debussy SQ just finished up,,Ravel's in the 1st movement. Glad I bought the last 3 or 4 low priced copies, My plan is to snap up all available and scalp yrs from now.
    Finally a Debussy SQ rendition i can be happy with, start to ending.
    The ravel, I had 1 or 2 others i liked, but this travincek is STU*NNING>
    WOW 2 winners on 1 cd.
    How often do you find that?
    This Czech group, IMHO has the finest Debussy and finest Ravel SQ on record.
    Possibly, yes in fact is, superior to the 1934 Calvet french SQ.
    ,,,well I have another points Classic copy comming from France any day, Kean Luc says its on the way,,I really wanted to send him more cash for shipping, as the cd went cheap on ebay at like 3 and ship like $5,,I wanted to give him another $10 for ship,,I told him to keep a eye out for Livia Rev's Debussy/Hyperion, maybe I can do business with him in the future.
    I felt guilty buying so cheap.

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