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    Quote Originally Posted by Luchesi View Post

    Yes, Luchesi wrote some clever things; (always using the basic elements of the music theory of that time)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijE4-ue7cLs
    I was referring to Gustav Mahler. I thought Luchesi was your name, now I'm aware of a new classical composer, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Scarpia View Post
    Yes, I have looked at the scores and don't doubt that the bass parts mostly function like a figured bass. My point is I like hearing that exposed bass line without a harpsichord filling in the implied harmonies.
    I understand that well. This scoring also sounds more like the organ version.

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    I noticed that a recent revonstruction of the Mark Passion is up om imslp. Very kind of the musician who made it to put it up there for free. The score and parts are there. Its wonderful to look through.
    Last edited by Rik1; Jan-04-2020 at 15:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luchesi View Post
    Yes, Luchesi wrote some clever things; (always using the basic elements of the music theory of that time)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijE4-ue7cLs
    This is a gross misrepresentation of his ouevre.





    How is he a composer "always using the basic elements of the music theory of his time" and a composer of merely "clever little things" compared to say, Charles Mayer (1799~1862)?

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    ^He did not say "clever little things", by inserting that word, you are changing the meaning of the sentiment completely. Clearly, (poster) Luchesi meant clever as a compliment. And I do not see what dragging this no-name composer Mayer into the equation has to do with anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamencosketches View Post
    Clearly, (poster) Luchesi meant clever as a compliment.
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    "always using the basic elements of the music theory of that time." -(poster) Luchesi

    I'm just asking (poster) Luchesi if he thinks Andrea Luchesi is more of a composer of "clever little things" than Charles Mayer, for example.
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    I actually borrowed that book from the library a while back! I didn't read it, unfortunately, because "HOLY MOLY WHAT ON EARTH IS THIS THING?!" was my first reaction upon opening the book. Or really just reading the subtitle... what on EARTH?!

    Yeah, I'm waiting till I gain more knowledge and understanding to read this thing.

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    Idea: Bach is obsessive-compulsive.

    Not saying he has OCD... I specifically checked, you don't have to have OCD to be obsessive-compulsive.

    This idea was inspired by a comment under a YouTube video of Art of the Fugue, which called the piece "obsessive". Now, I'm not sure what the original commenter really meant, but that got me thinking... perhaps the possibility that he was obsessive-compulsive accounts for how he composed so many brilliant contrapuntal works?

    I mean, if you think about it... is it not possible that he started writing one thing, had an idea for another thing, and couldn't stop writing puzzling (quite literally) works? For example, take Musical Offering. Perhaps he went home and thought of an "expansion" for his improv for Freddie ze Goat (that's my official and spontaneous nickname for Frederick the Great now), started writing it, and suddenly came up with another idea? And then another? And another, and another, and so on?

    Another example is the 14 Canons on the Aria of Goldberg Variations. He literally wrote 30 variations already with plenty of canons, and yet he decided to write 14 more.

    And talking about the Goldberg Variations, perhaps the impeccable organization of it is also due to his potential obsession with order? I mean, this is the man who writes bunches of fugues (some of them without referencing a keyboard) and stuff!

    What I'm trying to say is, I can totally envision Bach getting excited over new ideas and puzzles, whether the excitement is just fun or a symptom of obsessive-compulsive behavior.

    Of course, these are not sufficient evidence to say that he definitely has obsessive-compulsive behavior, but I think it is enough for us to perhaps consider the idea....

    (And again, just because someone may like order, or even is obsessive-compulsive, doesn't mean that they have OCD. I encourage those interested to do some searching on the differences, as I am not an expert on these matters.)

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    Bach is my favorite composer. I started listening to his orchestral music, concertos and major vocal works as my introduction to CM. It's been the best!

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    Found this on youtube, sounds pretty much like Bach, doesn't it?

    ...by the way, Bach is the greatest - by far!





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    "Music and the Mystery of Aliveness"

    Not long before her hemorrhage, Clemency had made a passionate case for a daily dose of music as “a form of sonic soul maintenance” in her book Year of Wonder: Classical Music to Enjoy Day by Day (public library) — the music counterpart to Tolstoy’s Calendar of Wisdom and poet Ross Gay’s yearlong journal of delights. She wrote:

    We are a music-making species — always have been, always will be — and music’s capacity to explore, express and address what it is to be human remains one of our greatest communal gifts… We evolved by coming together around the fire every night, singing songs and telling stories — invariably, telling stories through singing songs. That’s what our ancestors did; that’s how they made sense of the world and each other; that’s how they learned how to be.

    It is an impulse that is still fundamental to who we are.
    We few, we happy few, we band of chipmunks....

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