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    Quote Originally Posted by TrazomGangflow View Post
    Who doesn't like Bach?
    BachSucks just a bit above you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andante View Post
    BachSucks just a bit above you
    Do you have proof that Bach sucks? He is considered by some to be the greatest composer of all time. (although personally I think Beethoven made a greater influence) Bach wrote over 1,000 pieces and he led the way for many later composers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrazomGangflow View Post
    Do you have proof that Bach sucks? He is considered by some to be the greatest composer of all time. (although personally I think Beethoven made a greater influence) Bach wrote over 1,000 pieces and he led the way for many later composers.

    I was answering your question by referring to the post above yours (89) which in turn was referring to a post by BachSucks, I was not attacking you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andante View Post
    I was answering your question by referring to the post above yours (89) which in turn was referring to a post by BachSucks, I was not attacking you
    Sorry I misread your post.
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    If life wasn't so short I'd probably listen to more Bach. I've only purchased three Bach CDs in 27 years. I bought my third yesterday. An E. Power Biggs organ record. The others are the Brandenburg Concertos, and the Goldberg Variations.

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    1685 was a unique year in music history: three absolute giants of western music were born! Bach, Handel and Domenico Scarlatti. I wonder if aliens had anything to do with this ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    If life wasn't so short I'd probably listen to more Bach. I've only purchased three Bach CDs in 27 years. I bought my third yesterday. An E. Power Biggs organ record. The others are the Brandenburg Concertos, and the Goldberg Variations.
    I haven't got much Bach now, but I had more ages ago (incl. a number of those works you mention, as well as some compilations incl. E. Power Biggs' recordings) before I got rid of them (but I didn't only get rid of Bach discs, but a lot else for various reasons).

    Anyway, to cut a long story short, a little familiarity with J.S. Bach's music can go a long way in terms of using that to appreciate all the composers he influenced way after his death (esp. in terms of counterpoint, but also other things). Even though he's by no means my favourite composer, nor do I like to say certain things are like essential prior knowledge in terms of enjoying classical music, I would go near to saying that regarding J.S. Bach (esp. his fugues, knowledge of which has been very important for other composers writing them, whether they stick to the conventions he set down, or not). Even though a lay listener is not a composer or musician, does not need that high end knowledge, it is good to know what say a Bach fugue sounds like so that you can "hear" similar things happening all over the place in music after - eg. from Beethoven, to Bartok, to Hindemith, Villa-Lobos, Tippett, & so on. Even parts of Elgar's string quartet are so laden with types of counterpoint and fugal passages that hark back to Bach (& Beethoven, Brahms, etc.), yet we don't usually think of Elgar as that type of composer.

    In terms of what I like by J. S. Bach, it's more his instrumental, esp. solo instrumental, that I like, not his vocal things. But they are enough for me to grasp the basics of his sound, style, approach, etc. so I can apply it to other musics that I listen to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrazomGangflow View Post
    Sorry I misread your post.
    That's OK, it happens lol

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    I'm not obssessed with Bach's music. And I'm definitely not obssessed with his fugues.
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    I'm not obssessed with Bach's music. And I'm definitely not obssessed with his fugues.
    I'm not obssessed with Bach's music. And I'm definitely not obssessed with his fugues.
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    ^What's the symbolic significance to there being eight "I'm not obssessed with Bach's music." puntuated by two "I'm not obssessed with Bach's music. And I'm definitely not obssessed with his fugues." in each part of your pattern? I'm curious if there is any, otherwise we are just observing a flaunting of your ocd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clavichorder View Post
    ^What's the symbolic significance to there being eight "I'm not obssessed with Bach's music." puntuated by two "I'm not obssessed with Bach's music. And I'm definitely not obssessed with his fugues." in each part of your pattern? I'm curious if there is any, otherwise we are just observing a flaunting of your ocd.
    I was listening to the Partita No. 4 in D major, BWV828 when I was writing that, and decided to structure it that way.

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    This week Mr. Bach is my Number one obsession:
    http://www.talkclassical.com/blogs/i...ch-firsts.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid James View Post
    I haven't got much Bach now, but I had more ages ago (incl. a number of those works you mention, as well as some compilations incl. E. Power Biggs' recordings) before I got rid of them (but I didn't only get rid of Bach discs, but a lot else for various reasons).

    Anyway, to cut a long story short, a little familiarity with J.S. Bach's music can go a long way in terms of using that to appreciate all the composers he influenced way after his death (esp. in terms of counterpoint, but also other things). Even though he's by no means my favourite composer, nor do I like to say certain things are like essential prior knowledge in terms of enjoying classical music, I would go near to saying that regarding J.S. Bach (esp. his fugues, knowledge of which has been very important for other composers writing them, whether they stick to the conventions he set down, or not). Even though a lay listener is not a composer or musician, does not need that high end knowledge, it is good to know what say a Bach fugue sounds like so that you can "hear" similar things happening all over the place in music after - eg. from Beethoven, to Bartok, to Hindemith, Villa-Lobos, Tippett, & so on. Even parts of Elgar's string quartet are so laden with types of counterpoint and fugal passages that hark back to Bach (& Beethoven, Brahms, etc.), yet we don't usually think of Elgar as that type of composer.

    In terms of what I like by J. S. Bach, it's more his instrumental, esp. solo instrumental, that I like, not his vocal things. But they are enough for me to grasp the basics of his sound, style, approach, etc. so I can apply it to other musics that I listen to...
    Bach did more than influence other composers.
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    I rate Bach and Beethoven first amongst all composers. I found it extremely difficult playing the preludes and fugues on the piano because so much is going on in just one bar and the musical lines are treacherous territory for any musician. Just listening to great musicians saying how difficult Bach is to play is enough for me. I value fabulous intellect and musicality above all other criteria, and the older I get the more demanding I want my music - that's why I listen to Berg and Webern now: I think there's a musical line there (pardon the pun) which has evolved directly from JS Bach.

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