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    Default Help Selecting a Fidelio on DVD

    I'm looking for a Fidelio on DVD.

    I have narrowed it down to two choices at present, either the Bernstein/Wiener Staatsoper or the Harnoncourt/Zurich Opera House.

    My only experience of the Opera is via the Abbado/Lucerne CD release which I recently acquired and am enjoying a great deal.

    This where Harnoncourt takes a slight lead thanks to having Jonad Kaufmann, providing a link to the above CD release.

    That said, the Bernstein cast is very strong.

    I don't think I would be disappointed either way but I would much appreciate any input towards making he right choice for me.

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    I have an elderly Glyndbourne DVD directed by Peter Hall and conducted by Haitink. Not exactly modern but the performance is really good. I saw it on tour and the DVD refreshed my experience. Soderstrom is a really convincing Leonore.
    Avoid the Met version with dear old Ben Heppner as Florestan. He is so huge! A starving prisoner? Even opera fans surely cannot summon up that suspension of disbelief!

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    I have the Harnoncourt version and watched the televised Bernstein production. Of the two, my clear preference is for Harnoncourt, even with his occasionally quirky tempo choices ("O namenlose Freude" is taken at a snail's pace). Both are traditional stagings, Bernstein's more so than Harnoncourt. But for me, Camilla Nylund and Jonas Kaufmann sing circles around Janowitz and Kollo -- Kaufmann particularly. (Full disclosure: Kollo is one of those great singers whose voices I just don't "get.") I also prefer Alfred Muff's Pizarro to Hans Sotin's, but just slightly; same with Laszlo Polgar's Rocco versus Manfred Jungwirth's. Nylund and Kaufmann are also very convincing actors, which certainly doesn't hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAuer View Post
    I have the Harnoncourt version and watched the televised Bernstein production. Of the two, my clear preference is for Harnoncourt, even with his occasionally quirky tempo choices ("O namenlose Freude" is taken at a snail's pace). Both are traditional stagings, Bernstein's more so than Harnoncourt. But for me, Camilla Nylund and Jonas Kaufmann sing circles around Janowitz and Kollo -- Kaufmann particularly. (Full disclosure: Kollo is one of those great singers whose voices I just don't "get.") I also prefer Alfred Muff's Pizarro to Hans Sotin's, but just slightly; same with Laszlo Polgar's Rocco versus Manfred Jungwirth's. Nylund and Kaufmann are also very convincing actors, which certainly doesn't hurt.
    Thanks for the input

    I am going to go ahead and order the Harnoncourt version in the morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    I have an elderly Glyndbourne DVD directed by Peter Hall and conducted by Haitink. Not exactly modern but the performance is really good. I saw it on tour and the DVD refreshed my experience. Soderstrom is a really convincing Leonore.
    Avoid the Met version with dear old Ben Heppner as Florestan. He is so huge! A starving prisoner? Even opera fans surely cannot summon up that suspension of disbelief!
    Thanks for heads up on the Met version. I can suspend disbelief and keep an open mind to an extent but context is everything. This would not be an ideal introduction to visual production of the opera.

    I may look up the Glyndebourn in future as they have rarely disappointed in my (albeit limited) experience.
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    Default Looking for a good Fidelio on DVD (or You Tube)

    I want to get a really good DVD of the opera Fidelio (or watch it on You Tube). Any recommendations?
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    Karita Mattila or Dame Gwyneth Jones for the best combo of acting and singing.
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    Depends on whether it's the soprano or the tenor who interests you.

    I concur with seattleoperafan about Karita Mattila. She's great in this. But Ben Heppner is less satisfactory as Florestan, and when she tells him how starving he looks and subsequently can't get her arms around him for a hug I get the giggles.



    I also very much like this production, the two leads are very good.

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    Oops, Looks like I should have put this in the Opera DVD sub forum.

    MODERATORS: please move this to the sub forum. Thanks, Paul

    Wow, fantastic website. The thread already has been moved in less than an hour. Thanks!

    My highest preference is for a good soprano voice. Not all that fond of too much vibrato though in any voice.

    The suggestions above look good. What about the Bernstein Fidelio which I found in the list of recommended opera DVDs thread? It seems to be highly rated.
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    I compared some clips of Levine and Bernstein on You Tube and I really like the Bernstein version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TallPaul View Post
    Oops, Looks like I should have put this in the Opera DVD sub forum.

    MODERATORS: please move this to the sub forum. Thanks, Paul

    Wow, fantastic website. The thread already has been moved in less than an hour. Thanks!

    My highest preference is for a good soprano voice. Not all that fond of too much vibrato though in any voice.

    The suggestions above look good. What about the Bernstein Fidelio which I found in the list of recommended opera DVDs thread? It seems to be highly rated.
    I haven't seen it but I do know that this was the recording that made our resident Fidelio enthusiast so keen on this opera:

    Quote Originally Posted by MAuer View Post
    Gundula Janowitz likely gets the blame for my Fidelio obsession, based on the telecast of the Vienna State Opera production with her Leonore. I
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    Janowitz is a fine Leonore, but I think Camilla Nylund is even better. And Nylund is partnered by my fave Florestan, Jonas Kaufmann. Kollo, on the other hand, is definitelty not my cup of tea. The 2004 Zürich video is my top choice for this opera.

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    Here is a clip of Jonas Kaufmann singing Florestan's aria. (Obviously, the folks in Zürich took the "dunkel" part seriously.)



    If you're curious, you can watch the entire opera -- though you will have to wait through a silly commercial first.


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    Thanks MAuer. I may watch the whole opera you posted above. The singing is very good.

    I have checked out You Tube videos on Levine, Harnoncourt, and Bernstein. Between those three and the one you have posted, I really like the scenery, costumes etc in the Bernstein production. While it may or may not be the best voices, all the voices I hear in these three clips below are very pleasing to me. To me it looks more realistically like the mind picture I have formed from listening to the opera on CD but never having seen it. There are three clips on You Tube of the Bernstein Fidelio:


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    Grabbed the 1978 Bernstein DVD and also searched Amazon with a fine tooth comb and found and purchased these:

    An early version of the opera that was later called Fidelio:


    And Fidelio sung in English:
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