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    This is CD evreybody waited for... yesterday I listened it. I don't like it very much! Something is not there, not all bad but I compare "hype" and what is there I feel failed very, very much... specially orchestra, we live at XXI century and from 50 years before this we have recorded Verdi with much more orchestral power... space... technic is not all we see. With Netrebko one thing I know, she learned good trills (I remember she didn't do them good).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorpeteonomanosis View Post
    This is CD evreybody waited for... yesterday I listened it. I don't like it very much! Something is not there, not all bad but I compare "hype" and what is there I feel failed very, very much... specially orchestra, we live at XXI century and from 50 years before this we have recorded Verdi with much more orchestral power... space... technic is not all we see. With Netrebko one thing I know, she learned good trills (I remember she didn't do them good).
    A gay friend of mine who is an opera fanatic, didn't like it much. Not being influenced by her womanly charms enabled him to listen objectively.

    But I haven't head it yet so can't comment for myself.
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    So here is my take on Netrebko. I don't think she has a very strong voice for recording. Her voice is good but not great. On disk you can tell she has faults and flaws. (All of which she admits and even embraces.) That being said, what she lacks in technical skills on audio disk she more then makes up for as a performer when live. Having seen several DVDs of her as well as a few live shows there is something just mesmerizing about her on stage. (For the recored I am a very happily married gay man.) In this day and age more shows then ever are being preserved on video, and I think she will be known as a singer that needs to be seen to be heard. She is the go to singer for me when trying to explain to my thirty-something year old friends opera. Sitting them down to watch a DVD with her in the show they get involved in her as a performer. They could care less right now if her coloratura is right or if her vowels are over rounded. What they see is a stunning woman singing gorgeous music and they can relate to her. Later, if they get into the art form, they can nit pick performances and learn the finer points, but for the HD generation of opera goers it helps to shatter the sweaty, overweight singer stereotype for them. Opera, I think, is one of the few remaining arts where true greatness is measured by sheer talent and not by looks, but they will learn that later. For now I just want to get them into opera.

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    I think you have nailed it, Starlightexp. She's not at all perfect and certainly doesn't merit uncritical adulation,

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    for myself, I am surprised at the amount of hatred directed toward her (check some of the spiteful reviews on Amazon!) There has always been a mean streak in opera fans, and I think Netrebko bears the brunt of that at present. In Australia we call it the 'Tall Poppy Syndrome': stand above the pack and risk having your head lopped.

    This disc won't make my fabled Top 10 of the Year list, but I like it.

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    Oreb wrote:

    for myself, I am surprised at the amount of hatred directed toward her (check some of the spiteful reviews on Amazon!) There has always been a mean streak in opera fans, and I think Netrebko bears the brunt of that at present. In Australia we call it the 'Tall Poppy Syndrome': stand above the pack and risk having your head lopped.


    I attribute that to human beings' fear of difference, their fear of things that don't fall precisely "into line."

    Those who "hate on" Netrebko -- who actually take time out of their days to write spiteful things about her on the internet -- are likely the same sort of people who, once upon a time, sent death threats to Renata Scotto.

    It's interesting: almost a year ago I took my mom, a thoroughly schooled pianist who used to accompany singers, to hear/see Netrebko in the Met's HD performance of L'elisir d'amore. My mom had never heard Netrebko before. My mom's verdict? That her voice is "very likeable." Sometimes I think these fanatical people need to calm down and back away a bit from the things they're attempting to critique. It's as though they project their own weaknesses and insecurities onto these singers.

    I have no problem at all with people who calmly and politely give reasons as to why they don't care for a singer. It's the arrogance, the purism, and the ugly, personal insults that I can't abide.

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    I don't follow Netrebko, have just seen segments of performance on TV broadcasts, but I can certainly relate what you have so well written about in the flak I've read against Gheorghiu, Domingo, and others. Yes, clearly, there is something pathological at work in this hate-on syndrome.
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    I have all CDs and DVDs of Netrebko and enjoy her work. Young Anna had fresh luscious amber tone vocal that was very smooth and seductive along with great visual presentation, no surpirise she has risen to the top ranks of modern soprano singers

    Now older the voice is even darker and losing some of its dramatic bite, with a Verdi dramatic soprano aria CD you will compared to the giants of the past, a tough challenge that any modern singer will surely fall a bit short, but I am happy to have this CD only wishing is was done 5-10 years ago when there was more vocal sparkle and fire available

    Last edited by DarkAngel; Sep-07-2013 at 16:18.

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    Heard some of it on the radio.
    Not impressed.
    I mean, its an ok album.
    I didn't hear anything special about it though
    Shes ok.
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    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellinilover View Post
    It's as though they project their own weaknesses and insecurities onto these singers.
    or they simply can't stand them. I will now back away from this thread

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