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    Default What would you want for a third Fantasia movie?

    Disney made two Fantasia movies set on famous classical works. The first one had the following works:

    1. Bach - Toccata and Fugue in D minor
    2. Tchaikovsky - The Nutcracker Suite
    3. Dukas - The Sorcerer's Apprentice
    4. Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring
    5. Beethoven - The Pastoral Symphony
    6. Ponchielli - Dance of the Hours
    7. Mussorgsky - Night on Bare Mountain/Schubert - Ave Maria

    The second one had the following works:

    1. Beethoven - Symphony No. 5 (1st Movement)
    2. Respighi - Pines of Rome
    3. Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue
    4. Shostakovich - Piano Concerto No. 2 (1st Movement)
    5. Saint-Saens - The Carnival of the Animals (Finale)
    6. Dukas - The Sorcerer's Apprentice
    7. Elgar - Pomp and Circumstance Marches
    8. Stravinsky - Firebird Suite

    Now let's make an imagination exercise. If Disney wants to make a third Fantasia feature and wants opinions from the public, what works would you suggest? I would suggest Debussy's Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun and Borodin's Steppes of Central Asia.
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    Copland's 'The Tender Land suite'(The promise of living) or 'Appalachian Spring'
    Bernstein's Overture to 'Candide' or 'Francy Free'
    Sibelius's 'Finlandia'
    Orff selections from 'Carmina Burana'
    Mahler's 'Das Lied Von Der Erde'
    Walton's opening movement to Symphony #1

    Just for a start

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    Hovhaness - Symphony No. 50, Mount St. Helens (the eruption part).

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    It would need at least one living composer, like the first one had. No composers represented already by previous movies. And I'd prefer no piecemeal works this time...

    How about:
    Handel: Music for the Royal Fireworks
    Adams: Short Ride in a Fast Machine
    Bizet: Carmen Suite
    Busoni: Berceuse élégiaque
    Prokofiev: Lieutenant Kijé Suite
    Haydn: "Farewell" Symphony (no repeats to save time)
    Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending

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    Preferably, something from Ligeti, Berio, Nono, Scriabin, Schnittke, Gubaidulina, Penderecki, Lutoslawski, Szymanowski.

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    Some pieces seem to be more "visual" than others, sometimes deliberately so, but often not.

    A few more suggestions:

    Mendelssohn - Hebrides overture.
    Bartok - Third movement from Concerto for orchestra (the opening always makes me think of descending into water, with sharks circling
    Mozart - Rex tremendae majestatis from the Requiem
    Giovanni Gabrieli - Omnes gentes, plaudite manibus (For those not familiar with it, here's a YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_8H8AJvGy4 )
    Rachmaninov - First or second movement from Symphonic Dances
    Dvorak - Last movement from symphony no. 8 (yes, 8, not 9 - there are bits in there that are very cinematic indeed!)

    The above selection is perhaps too relentlessly dramatic and majestic, so we'd need a few quieter pieces as well:
    Bach - Famous Air from orchestral suite no. 3 or perhaps an instrumental version of Sheep may safely graze.
    Mozart - Slow movement from piano concerto no. 21
    Borodin - Nocturne from second string quartet, perhaps souped up into a version for string orchestra

    And for humourous relief:
    Haydn - Slow movement from Surprise symphony.
    And something by Leroy Anderson, like the bit with the typewriter

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    Something by Ginastera definitely needs to be included, also how about Márquez's Danzón no. 2?

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    Nice thread idea!

    1. Danse Macabre (Saint-Saens)
    2. Trumpet Concerto 1st movement (John Williams)
    3. The Planets (Holst)
    4. Isle of the Dead (Rachmaninoff)
    5. Scheherezade (Rimsky-Korsakov)
    6. Tchaikovsky's 4th symphony
    7. selections from 1000 Airplanes on the Roof (Philip Glass)
    8. selections from Symphonie Fantastique (Berlioz)
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    I really think it would be great if Disney uses Mussorgsky's Pictures at An Exhibition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MozartEarlySymphonies View Post
    I really think it would be great if Disney uses Mussorgsky's Pictures at An Exhibition.
    Now *that* would be something to see!
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    The second one cured me of wanting to see a third. Bruno Bozetto did a better sequel to Fantasia than the Disney company did. At this point, I'd much prefer a jazz Fantasia.

    By the way, when it comes to Prelude to an Afternoon of a Faun, Walt already did Clair de Lune. It wasn't very good. Not enough accents to grab onto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaneyes View Post
    Preferably, something from Ligeti, Berio, Nono, Scriabin, Schnittke, Gubaidulina, Penderecki, Lutoslawski, Szymanowski.
    HA! Try and draw a cartoon that goes with THAT!

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    Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire would make a great cartoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlic View Post
    Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire would make a great cartoon
    You might already know, but there was a film version of it a few years back. Very adult, of course...and I'm sure that Disney wouldn't touch certain parts of Pierrot with a ten-foot pole!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigshot
    HA! Try and draw a cartoon that goes with THAT!
    Well, if you can make a ballet out of Le marteau sans maitre (look for it on Youtube) you can choreograph anything.

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