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  • 1)Swan Lake 2)The Sleeping Beauty 3)The Nutcracker

    18 17.65%
  • 1)The Sleeping Beauty 2)Swan Lake 3)The Nutcracker

    11 10.78%
  • 1)Swan Lake 2) The Nutcracker 3) The Sleeping Beauty

    29 28.43%
  • 1) The Sleeping Beauty 2)The Nutcracker 3)Swan Lake

    5 4.90%
  • 1) The Nutcracker 2)Swan Lake 3)The Sleeping Beauty

    31 30.39%
  • 1) The Nutcracker 2)The Sleeping Beauty 3)Swan Lake

    6 5.88%
  • I don't like any of them..

    2 1.96%
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    Please rank the Tchaikovsky ballets, from most favorite to least favorite.

    I love them all but if I had to choose, Swan Lake is my favorite, followed by The Sleeping Beauty and then The Nutcracker.

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    I have never watched a ballet performance of any of them so I'm just going off the music.

    I still have a warm spot in my heart for the music of The Nutcracker, probably because I heard it first.

    Sleeping Beauty is probably my next favorite followed by Swan Lake. I think all 3 are all excellent though.

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    I miss the option "I like all of them". Not the very best (that would be the Sacre and Daphnis & Chloe), but very good indeed.
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    Definitely hard for me to rank them. I love them all; the greatest ballets ever written. I would probably put Swan Lake first, just because it's a masterpiece in my opinion. The other two, though, harder to rank.
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    I don't understand why so many people dump on the Nutcracker. It is filled with tons of beautiful music and melody, not just in the Suite, but throughout the whole ballet. I doubt that there is a measure of "filler" in the whole piece. Maybe because it's overperformed at the expense of other ballets.

    Tchaikovsky's other ballets are also great and I don't know them well enough to argue that the Nutcracker is the best. That's not my point.

    Of course, this is a matter of taste, like so much in music.

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    Definitely Nutcracker first, one of the greatest works ever written.
    then SL, SB.
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    About 30mins of the Nutcracker is top-shelf work. It really is first class. Unfortunately, the other 90mins is just dancing mice and stuff.

    The first half hour is like watching Christmas with the Von Trapp children, except the kids all have ADHD.
    The family all go to bed. The clock strikes midnight and some creepy old guy manifests like Poe's Raven on top of the grandfather clock.
    This is when the production starts trippin'. The mice are dancing. The gingerbread men are marching.
    Our young heroine assists in the assassination of a monarch. The usual stuff.
    It's all done with such aplomb, that you will scarcely believe that you have left the opium den.

    My advice is to wait at the bar until the 2nd act. It's still crazy but this is where all the best music has been stashed to prevent parents from going home at the interval. It also has the ballet.

    The first act is like panto but without the C-list celebrities trying to convince themselves that their first love is the theatre.

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    You forgot to mention the Christmas Tree growing, which in reality represents Clara shrinking down to the size of her toys. Balanchine changed Clara's name to Marie for some odd reason, perhaps it sounds more Christmassy.


    Nutcracker1892.jpg
    The original production of The Nutcracker, 1892

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    Hmmm... the top voting result (at the time of posting) is an option that has The Nutcracker first. Second place is an option that has the Nutcracker third.

    It's my modest (not Modest... but modest) opinion that Swan Lake has the greatest ballet music ever penned by man. I'm passionate about it the way I'm passionate about late-period Bruckner- and (pretty much) all of Wagner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_townPhilly View Post
    It's my modest (not Modest... but modest
    Ohh, that's heartwarming! I thought of Modest when I went to see my school's play last year, imagined his critique, and attempted not to laugh!

    Oh, Modest.... (And don't accuse me of liking Modest just because of his brother, we know which. Because that would be partially true.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyotr View Post
    You forgot to mention the Christmas Tree growing, which in reality represents Clara shrinking down to the size of her toys. Balanchine changed Clara's name to Marie for some odd reason, perhaps it sounds more Christmassy.


    Nutcracker1892.jpg
    The original production of The Nutcracker, 1892
    Speaking of which, do you know Dolly Zoom? I've been obsessed lately, I'd probably ask Aleazk about it, he may know a thing or two.

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    My Ranking:

    1.Swan Lake/ Sleeping Beauty/ Nutcracker
    2......
    3......

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    Sleeping Beauty is def good, but thus far i've seen any satisfactory cast..ABT, NYBT..you name it

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    Musically, I can't really say - between them there's not that much difference in overall quality as far as I'm concerned.

    For the visuals I'd put the Nutcracker first as there's more going on, more colourful. Couac's semi-trashing of the plot was a ripping read, though!
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    Swan Lake all the way through, but I prefer certain moments of Nutcracker. I visited Novodevichy Convent in Moscow and was told its lake supposedly inspired Tchaikovsky to write Swan Lake and I've checked that comment and too often the word "supposedly" is inserted, which makes me suspect that lake and Swan Lake aren't connected at all. (Makes me think of Mark Twain's nonfiction The Innocents Abroad where his tour guides' comments so often turned out to be false, Twain became dubious of all historical claims.)

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