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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    It is totally awesome to think of a 15 hour opera. Sure, it is four operas, but really it can easily be considered one great big 15-hour opera. No opera buff should ignore something this monumental!
    Well Flo, now that you are well and truly down the rabbit hole you need to get the following two items. John Culshaw's Ring Resounding which is a great book about the recording of the Solti Ring and the DVD called The Golden Ring which is also about the recording of the Solti Ring with wonderful footage taken during the actual recording sessions. There is some of it on YT worth checking out. Welcome to the wonderland of Ring cycles. There is no escape, you will never find the exit door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    Well Flo, now that you are well and truly down the rabbit hole you need to get the following two items. John Culshaw's Ring Resounding which is a great book about the recording of the Solti Ring and the DVD called The Golden Ring which is also about the recording of the Solti Ring with wonderful footage taken during the actual recording sessions. There is some of it on YT worth checking out. Welcome to the wonderland of Ring cycles. There is no escape, you will never find the exit door.
    I bet you he's searching for more as we speak!

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    It is out of print but should be not hard to find in the states. Time life





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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    I bet you he's searching for more as we speak!
    Yesterday I did a search to see what Ring operas Waltraud Meier is in and found her Samson and Delilah, which of course, I had to purchase a copy of.

    Also, while not actively searching--yet--in the back of my mind is the question, what is the best (the Solti) of live Ring recordings? Do I already have it in my Neuhold set, or is there a significantly better production?

    The Neuhold set is very nice and you hardly know it is live until the end of each opera when the audience applauds, which is a nice place marker for me to know when to queue up the next in the opera series.
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    Another good book to get is Ernest Newman's Wagner Nights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    Yesterday I did a search to see what Ring operas Waltraud Meier is in and found her Samson and Delilah, which of course, I had to purchase a copy of.

    Also, while not actively searching--yet--in the back of my mind is the question, what is the best (the Solti) of live Ring recordings? Do I already have it in my Neuhold set, or is there a significantly better production?

    The Neuhold set is very nice and you hardly know it is live until the end of each opera when the audience applauds, which is a nice place marker for me to know when to queue up the next in the opera series.
    Any of the live sets from Bayreuth in the '50s would be good. Standout is the 1955 stereo Keilberth. Brilliant cast, great conductor, great live Bayreuth sound which slightly favours the voices, but just slightly so. Modern live not so easy because of the dearth of great Wagner singers.
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    I concur with Barbebleu's thoughts. In fact, if I were recommending a Ring cycle for someone who wanted just one, and balancing in factors of sound, singing, and interpretation, the 1955 Keilberth set would be the one I would suggest.

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    I'll have to check out that 1955 Keilberth set. I did see a Krause set going quite cheap, about $16 for the whole ring, but the sound was par with that of a free download ring they had on Opera Depot about a year ago, for which reason I don't listen to it.

    But I better imbibe of the Solti Ring and my Levine DVD ring before I start hitting any more Ring buy buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    I'll have to check out that 1955 Keilberth set. I did see a Krause set going quite cheap, about $16 for the whole ring, but the sound was par with that of a free download ring they had on Opera Depot about a year ago, for which reason I don't listen to it.

    But I better imbibe of the Solti Ring and my Levine DVD ring before I start hitting any more Ring buy buttons.
    I have checked it out recently - it is phantastic! The One Ring to rule them all... But the Solti Ring is a wonderful one too, and the Levine DVD is just about the only one that is truly visually satisfying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegendesLicht View Post
    Levine DVD is just about the only one that is truly visually satisfying.
    I found Boulez 1980 DVD very satisfying visually, artistically and vocally. Levine has Hildegard Behrens - while I do love her Isolde, I found her Brünnhilde underpowered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azol View Post
    I found Boulez 1980 DVD very satisfying visually, artistically and vocally. Levine has Hildegard Behrens - while I do love her Isolde, I found her Brünnhilde underpowered.
    Yes, the Boulez centenary Ring is rather good. Modern, but not unwatchably so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    I'll have to check out that 1955 Keilberth set. I did see a Krause set going quite cheap, about $16 for the whole ring, but the sound was par with that of a free download ring they had on Opera Depot about a year ago, for which reason I don't listen to it.

    But I better imbibe of the Solti Ring and my Levine DVD ring before I start hitting any more Ring buy buttons.
    You made great choices Florestan. Enjoy them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    It appears debatable whether the 1997 or 2012 remaster is better. This may be partly due to older ears doing the compares (so I fit right in). This Amazon Reviewer has gone through all the remasters and various sets with a fine toothed comb and is worth a read along with the comments on his review. See the review here. It seems that the very best sound comes from the Blu Ray edition.

    The fancy set does come with a lot of great extras. Too bad they may the packaging butt ugly! But it also is extremely bulky, so even had I not hit the buy button, I would still get the set I have on order. I will also check out a book on the Ring from my library.

    This is what I bought (1997 remaster):


    I also ordered the Levine DVD ring set.
    So now I am ready to RING in the New Year as they all are to arrive on 28 December:
    Great choices! I attended the 1990 Met cycle, and some of the video footage that was shot that week is in the DVD set. One sad event during that cycle: at the end of Götterdämmerung, some of the scenery started collapsing too soon, seriously injuring Hildegard Behrens as she was leaving the stage at the conclusion of the Immolation Scene. So sad...but she recovered and was back on stage a few weeks later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    Don't get out there much but for concerts at Hill Auditorium. If I do I'll have to look up used record/CD stores.
    It's Liberty Records, I think. I haven't been there in years; I need to make a trek over there myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kineno View Post
    It's Liberty Records, I think. I haven't been there in years; I need to make a trek over there myself.
    Wow! Liberty Records. Brings back memories. I went there in 1985 during college. A friend who was in the music school and with me in Forestry school took me there to buy me a Messiah set. I remember taking the vinyl sets into listening rooms, little booths, that closed up and then you could play tracks to see if you liked it. I selected the Westenburg Messiah as my very first Messiah set.
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