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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    I have mixed feelings about Furtwangler's RAI cycle, have not gotten the Scala one yet but I'm in no hurry from my exposure to that one on streaming services.
    The Furtwängler 1950 La Scala set from Pristine sounds amazingly good (and like rubbish everywhere else I've heard it). Check out the audio samples at Pristine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherSpin View Post
    Karajan would never be my desert island Ring. Still, I'd like to hear it sometime when I want really pretty, schmaltzy sound from the band, and in some cases I do. Not often, but.
    I adore the Karajan Ring. I think the reports of it being a chamber Ring and only beautiful are hogwash. I avoided it for years because of hearing things like this. It is so beautiful but Karajan whoops some a$$ when the score calls for it. His Walküre is a miracle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OperaGeek View Post
    The above was the first and - until now - the only post in this thread to mention the Levine Ring. I think it deserves a second mention.

    WHAT? I hear you say. How can one possibly enjoy that Ring, which basically has no Siegfried and a stretched-to-the-breaking-point-and-then-some Brünnhilde? Well, Goldberg's Siegfried in particular is a significant strike against the Levine Ring, true. Overall, though, if one is not allergic to Levine's approach to Wagner, his Ring has quite a lot to offer: The MET Orchestra, Morris, Wlaschiha (one of the few Alberichs to challenge Neidlinger), Norman, Salminen, Moll and others. The "Walküre" finale, for example, with Morris, Levine and the orchestra at their best, is quite superb.

    My favourite Ring, though, remains the Karajan. His Rheingold isn't that exciting, but his Walküre is really something special, and both Siegfried and Götterdämmerung really hit the mark in my opinion.

    Personally, I find it hard to enjoy Solti's Ring in the long run: It's all very spectacular, with magnificent orchestral playing, and there are several classic interpretations from the soloists, not least Nilsson's Brünnhilde and Neidlinger's Alberich. Windgassen is a very good Siegfried, too, although his Siegfried is so well-documented, it would have been nice to hear someone else for a change. King, Crespin, Ludwig and others do sterling work, too. The problems are Solti and Hotter. To my ears, the former is too noisy and impatient, while the latter is way - too far - past his best. I can live with a piece of unfortunate casting or two, even in the biggest roles, but Solti's conducting is just too much.
    I put the Levine Ring 5th for one reason only - Morris. His final passages in Walküre are worth the price of the set alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gellio View Post
    I put the Levine Ring 5th for one reason only - Morris. His final passages in Walküre are worth the price of the set alone.

    Oh and Norman too.

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    Has anyone heard the Seattle Ring? Talk about a terrible Ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gellio View Post
    I adore the Karajan Ring. I think the reports of it being a chamber Ring and only beautiful are hogwash. I avoided it for years because of hearing things like this. It is so beautiful but Karajan whoops some a$$ when the score calls for it. His Walküre is a miracle.
    There are a host of critics who parroted this sort of nonsense when it was fashionable to do so. Like a bunch of sheep they followed each other with their bleating a. The Karajan Ring is the one I generally listen to because I happen to like beautiful sound in Wagner and the humanitising effect it has.

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    I wish he'd have stayed at Bayreuth longer than he did.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gellio View Post
    I adore the Karajan Ring. I think the reports of it being a chamber Ring and only beautiful are hogwash. I avoided it for years because of hearing things like this. It is so beautiful but Karajan whoops some a$$ when the score calls for it. His Walküre is a miracle.
    With Karajan, the orchestral overtures and interludes are dramatic, stirring, and vivid, but the sung parts are underdramatized. Pretty but overly restrained. For folks who mainly care about the peaks, I think Karajan can be the best possible recording, but I find his Ring recording quite dull in many long passages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howlingfantods View Post
    With Karajan, the orchestral overtures and interludes are dramatic, stirring, and vivid, but the sung parts are underdramatized. Pretty but overly restrained. For folks who mainly care about the peaks, I think Karajan can be the best possible recording, but I find his Ring recording quite dull in many long passages.
    Sorry but disagree. He proved the Ring could be done without the usual cannons we associate with Wagner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gellio View Post
    I put the Levine Ring 5th for one reason only - Morris. His final passages in Walküre are worth the price of the set alone.
    I just listened to Act I of this for the first time last night, so I'll pay particular attention to him in Act III based on this comment.
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    Glad to see this thread revived. Any thoughts anyone on the Haitink Ring. This is often dismissed, much like Levine and Janowski. I don't find it objectionable and imho it is quite well recorded. And before all the hard-core enthusiasts get stuck in, I do acknowledge that singing-wise, the recordings of the fifties are hard to beat.

    And we do already have a thread for vintage Wagner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    Glad to see this thread revived. Any thoughts anyone on the Haitink Ring. This is often dismissed, much like Levine and Janowski. I don't find it objectionable and imho it is quite well recorded. And before all the hard-core enthusiasts get stuck in, I do acknowledge that singing-wise, the recordings of the fifties are hard to beat.

    And we do already have a thread for vintage Wagner!
    Janowski is a very safe bet - well conducted and well sung even if Altmeyer is somewhat over parted. Rumour has it that C Kleiber was originally pencilled in as conductor. That would have been interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbebleu View Post
    Glad to see this thread revived. Any thoughts anyone on the Haitink Ring. This is often dismissed, much like Levine and Janowski. I don't find it objectionable and imho it is quite well recorded. And before all the hard-core enthusiasts get stuck in, I do acknowledge that singing-wise, the recordings of the fifties are hard to beat.

    And we do already have a thread for vintage Wagner!
    I think it's a very fine Ring.
    Beautifully recorded. Some casting problems as you would expect.
    Maybe so, but I still like the Ring as a whole.
    An excellent Rheingold stands out.

    I don't care for the Janowski. Sounds too sterile to me.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    My favourite ring recordings (in no particular order):

    Keilberth 1953
    Keilberth 1955
    Barenboim (1990?)
    Boehm Philips version
    Krauss 1953
    Fuertwaengler Rai version

    Unfortunately that's six recordings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    My favourite ring recordings (in no particular order):

    Keilberth 1953
    Keilberth 1955
    Barenboim (1990?)
    Boehm Philips version
    Krauss 1953
    Furtwangler Rai version

    Unfortunately that's six recordings...

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    Conte why do you prefer the 53 Furtwangler RAI to the 50 Furtwangler La Scala?

    Some nice 1950s Bayreuth picks, this guy belongs in the historical wagner thread.........I assume you have purchased the new 53 Keilberth Ring boxset just released

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