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    Question What are your TOP 5 RING recordings....................

    I'll let you folks go first.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    That little theme in Siefrieds funeral march that sounds like a 90s movie action theme...what is it?

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    Top five in any order.

    Bayreuth 1955 Keilberth
    Covent Garden 1965 Solti (I am cheating - I have the tapes - I recorded it (from Radio) so it is a recording)
    Bayreuth 1991-2 Barenboim
    Rome Furtwängler RAI 1953
    Bayreuth 1966-67 Böhm

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    Krauss Bayreuth 1953
    Keilberth Bayreuth 1955
    Barenboim Bayreuth (Kupfer DVD version)
    Solti
    Furtwängler RAI 1953

    The order depends on which one I'm listening to at the time

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    By default as they're the only 5 I've heard:

    Solti
    Bohm
    Furtwangler RAI
    Karajan
    Sawallisch

    I really must get hold of the Krauss/Keilberth/Kna ones from the 50s

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    Solti
    Karajan
    Bohm
    Keilberth
    Barenboim
    for now.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Goodall - my favourite. Eccentric tempi, but Sir Reggie carried it off, thanks in no small part to the most moving Brunnhilde I've heard in Rita Hunter.

    The rest in any order, all are wonderful:

    Solti - the first Ring I heard and for years my benchmark. A magnificent cast and a great introduction to the Ring. The most exciting recording I know, but not the deepest.

    Barenboim - a case of the sum being greater than the parts. Nothing stands out more than the vision of Maestro Barenboimn, who has IMO a deep understanding of this greatest of works.

    Keilberth - very special. Manages to convey a real sense of occasion

    Janowski - I love the mix on this: voices really up-front makes it stand out. So good that I can even tolerate (for once) Theo Adam

    Two additional comments - the Fisch recordings on Melba have IMO the best sound of any version I've heard, and are close to my heart because I was in the audience,

    The Gergiev Ring is not yet complete, but the Walkure is superb and I have high hopes for the cycle as a whole.

    Biggest disappointments for me:

    Karajan, which I just don't feel has the chops vocally

    Bohm, which has a wonderful, wonderful cast but it feels rushed (like his similarly wonderfully cast Tristan und Isolde)

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    Krauss
    Keilberth
    Barenboim
    Solti
    Furtwängler
    "No preluding! Piano pianissimo -- then all will be well." (Posted in the orchestra pit on August 13, 1876)

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    Solti, Boulez, Barenboim, Goodall, New Met.

    Goodall is a must-have for any English speaker who doesn't know German. It is hearing the Ring in an entirely new light. I find the tempo too slow to be all that compelling dramatically, but it is a gift to true Wagner-lovers who wish to leisurely bask in the music for a few extra hours.
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    I have only one and it is Barenboim's which I adore. I have read some nasty reviews on Goodall's version....but I might check it out for myself in the future once I have a couple of other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComposerOfAvantGarde View Post
    I have only one and it is Barenboim's which I adore. I have read some nasty reviews on Goodall's version....but I might check it out for myself in the future once I have a couple of other ones.
    Don't be put off by the reviews of Reggie's Ring. He takes the broad view so it is quite slow, but it is very well sung. I saw all of these performances in the theatre, from 1970 until 1977 and remember them well. Curiously Reggie conducted the works slightly faster when they were sung in German. I saw him conduct Rheingold and Walkure at Covent Garden in 1975. They were excellent, but across at the ENO, his Ring was so much more because he built it from scratch, and taught almost all of the singers their roles as well. If you want the Ring conducted like Karl Bohm, then don't go to this, but as you like Barenboim (as I do very much) then you will like this very much.

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    If I were to even begin to entertain the idea of needing another Ring the only possibilities would be Karl Böhm and Furtwängler. I can't begin to even entertain the idea of Boulez' Ring, and considering that I have never found Barenboim to be able to rise above the level of stolid mediocrity in nearly anything he has laid his hands upon, I'm not likely to invest in his Ring. I would most certainly be interested in what Valery Gergiev might do with the Ring... and in light of his marvelous Lohengrin and the reviews of his performances of Tristan und Isolde, I would be very interested in a recording by Semyon Bychkov.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StlukesguildOhio View Post
    I have never found Barenboim to be able to rise above the level of stolid mediocrity in nearly anything he has laid his hands upon, I'm not likely to invest in his Ring.
    Nope - your listening is mediocre.
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    I have decided to add a new Ring to this thread - me choosing something modern, with living breathing performers; I must be going soft in the head.Every participant in this Ring is alive and kicking! / singing.
    Well here it is.
    71k8+8QNgpL._SL1200_.jpg71rAgUvQ5KL._SL1200_.jpgFront.jpg

    I am very impressed first with the orchestra and this Ring has brought forth a hitherto no so well known conductor who can be held up with the very best of them - Sebastian Weigle . remember the name.
    I knew him from Bayreuth as the conductor of that recent trash production of the Meistersinger by §$%&##*#* Wagner.
    He really does a great job. Star of the show (believe me!) is the(then) 68 years old Terje Stensvold as Wotan /Wanderer.
    A tremendous performance in all three operas , he deserves to be much more widely known. He has the power and the ability to shade his voice and sing softly, but still with great clarity. The Rheingold cast is mostly unknown to me but all sing well.
    The Walküre has Frank van Aken as Siegmund, Westbroek as Sieglinde - both excellent
    Susan Bullock sings Brünnhilde and Lance Ryan Siegfried.

    Beautifully recorded from live performances given between 2010 and 2011.

    Amazon are offering it at a ridiculous pre-order price -
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...pf_rd_i=468294

    Can't go wrong at that price - (Amazon Germany has already issued it at 68 Euros!)
    I don't know if this is a promo or not - just go for it.

    I have included also a picture of the new Gergiev Rheingold - I found it a little antisceptic - I did not like the recording acoustic. Too much reverberation, which is always a giveaway for trying to cover a multitude of sins. - It's not bad - it's just not good enough, Rene Papé or not!
    Last edited by Pip; Sep-08-2013 at 23:00.

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    Nope - your listening is mediocre.

    I think anyone who imagines Barenboim and his roster of singers surpasses the classic Kielberth, Krauss, and Knappertsbusch Rings might just need to think twice about referring to other's listening as "mediocre".
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