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  • Unique

    15 42.86%
  • Boring

    3 8.57%
  • There are more boring ones out there

    6 17.14%
  • I play him to warm up...just ask me while sleeping

    0 0%
  • Too technical

    6 17.14%
  • ...or Paganini rules

    5 14.29%
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    Assistant Administrator Daniel's Avatar
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    Just curious: What do you think about Paganini?

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    How can you not like Paganini?! Wow. I think he's awesome. Also, I just put a hex on every option other than Paganini rules. If anyone polls for anything else, every waking moment for you will become a swirling torrent of pain and misery. Just kidding.
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    HAHAHAHAHA, i voted for "there are more boring ones out there"...is that enough for being beaten? ?

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    In serious: sometimes Paganini gets me to much into "routine". I am referring to his violinconcerts. I listened to his 4 th concert yesterday again, and besides he didn't orchestrate very well, he got vulgar and in composition structure just "standard", there was missing an unique feeling.

    Out of the discussion; his soloviolin works and his ability to write for violin!

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    Why do you think he is boring? He was siad to have been possesed by the devil himself. Did you ever hear Shlomo Mintz (the guy James was with) play his 24 Caprices? Awesome. No, you're a good guy. so you won't get a beating. B) However, everyone else better watch their back if they decide that Paganini just isn't good enought for them. :P
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    It's unlikely there will be another Paganini...given the contribution his disease(s) made to his playing...and to the 'new' approach he displayed with regards to performing...

    ...you might be bored hearing about him, or hearing his works...but I doubt you can classify Paganini himself as boring...
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    I only heard about his condition that made his hands so big. What other ones are there? P.S. I think I may have that disease. :P B)
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    I didn&#39;t say he is boring. But his orchestration might be "a bit" boring and vulgar sometimes. Well, his writing for violin is of course unique, though there are moments I need some more deep music, which I miss sometimes by Paganini.

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    Originally posted by daniel@Sep 9 2004, 03:26 AM
    there are moments I need some more deep music, which I miss sometimes by Paganini.
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    I agree with you there.
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    Talking about moving music in Paganini...His Cantabile is really soothing, and really aesthetic. ( thanks to guys at soloviolin, I finally recall this tittle)
    I voted Paganini as unique. But I do agree that he&#39;s too technical sometimes. And it makes me wonder what is one&#39;s true intension of perfecting the playing of an instrument? To stretch the instrument to the limit, to outdo the possibilities which ultimately leads to marvellous, vulgar technic...or just perfecting the music...
    These 2 will have to work hand in hand.
    Pure technic is vulgar.
    BTW, Paganini suffers from Chronic disorder which &#39;ironically&#39; allows him to be really flexible with his wrist and movement around the fingerboard. And he can really stretch due to his large hands...but that&#39;s not his disorder.

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    According to Philip Sandblom in his book Creativity and Disease few geniuses have experienced such lucky agonies as Paganini, bedeviled by a host of chronic complaints, including Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, marked by excessive flexibility of the joints. "This enabled Paganini to perform the astonishing double-stoppings and roulades for which he was famous", Sandblom writes. "His wrist was so loose that he could move and twist it in all directions. Although his hand was not disproportional he could thus double its reach and play in the first three positions without shifting."

    Taken from:

    http://www.maurice-abravanel.com/paganini_...lo_english.html

    ...I&#39;m guessing he was anorexic as well...
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    that violinist is so masterful..its even a taboo for me to utter his name in public!Yes,__________Rules!

    4/4player

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    Paganini wrote terrific music for the guitar, which he played. Marco Tamayo has a disc of it on the Naxos label. You guys seem to think he wrote for the fiddle too; well, good for him.
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    You should investigate his chamber music; his string quartets, his guitar quartets,
    the many short sonatas for violin and guitar, his viola works, the "Barucab√°" variations...

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    There'll always be two problems as far as I can see:

    1) Paganini's: Paganini was forced to write music - there wasn't anything in the repertoire suited to his talents. So his music may not be particularly revolutionary but it gave him something to show off with. (For all that, his music is pretty good).

    2) Ours: Much of Paganini was surely about the visual/aural excitement at performance, something we'll never see. I wonder how many people have seen one or more concertos performed live? Most will have auditioned them only on CD or radio.

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