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    Richard Caniell at Guild CDs was responsible for putting together the "Dream Ring" a few years ago by combining various recordings together and publishing it. It was not as bad as I thought it might be considering he mixed live and commercial recordings most of which were conducted by different people.
    However it was by necessity limited by the type of recordings he was able to use.

    Here now, we can dispense with those limitations and let the imagination run wild.
    So here we go - the only rule is that all participants must be obtainable (live or not does not matter).

    Siegfried - Lauritz Melchior,has to be undoubtably the greatest in history. (Hans Hopf a distant second)
    Mime - Julius Patzak, a great artist, sings on the RAI Ring for Furtwängler
    Wanderer - Hans Hotter circa 1953-58 - as with Melchior - no contest.
    Alberich - Otakar Kraus -I saw both him and Neidlinger - both great - the difference is so small
    Fafner - Josef Greindl, one of my favourite singers, although I would not say no to Emmanuel List
    Woodbird - Joan Sutherland - luxury casting indeed, but you can buy the CDs on Pearl.
    Brünnhilde - Kirsten Flagstad - the soprano , the greatest.

    Conducted by Furtwängler(pre war) or Karajan circa 1952.

    Venue - Bayreuth - it is the most incredible feeling in the auditorium when the house lights go down, because there is no light from the covered orchestra pit and the sound just begins in the darkness - wonderful.
    It is the same effect with -Das Rheingold - sitting there in the darkness and from nowhere starts the low rumbling Eflat.
    Oh yes, we will have to journey to Bayreuth for this.
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    I have nothing to add to that dream casting Pip. My favorite Alberich though, is Neidlinger but I don't think I've heard Kraus. I'm not that far yet into Wagnerland, but who ever is? BTW, Richard Canniell's Dream Ring (either the version you mentioned or an "update" of that effort) is now listed at his site, immortalperformances.org. I recently purchased the 1939 Met Simon Boccanegra and the first ever compilation of the entire discography of Florence Quartararo. Great remasterings both.
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    Siegfried: Alberto Remedios (none has sung the part with greater beauty of tone, IMO)
    Mime: Gerhard Stolze (can't resist him, sorry)
    Wanderer: Hans Hotter (no contest)
    Alberich: Gustav Neidlinger
    Fafner: Matti Salminen
    Woodbird: Gundula Janowitz
    Erda: Christa Ludwig
    Brünnhilde: Linda Esther Gray (I'd love to have heard her sing this rôle)

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    One is assuming we have artists at their peak and not as heard on recordings made late in their careers.
    Then Flagstad for Brunnhilde
    Melchior for Siegfried (as Vickers never risked his voice with the part)
    Neidlinger as Alberich
    Hoffnung as Erda
    Salmi end as Fafner
    Schreier as Mime
    Hotter as Wanderer
    Conductor - Furtwangler, Krauss or Karajan

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    Oops, forgot my conductor. As this is a "Dream Siegfried", I'll go for Leonard Bernstein. I've often felt that Siegfried is the most "Mahlerian" of Wagner's works, and I'd be intrigued to hear what Bernstein would make of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip View Post
    Richard Caniell at Guild CDs was responsible for putting together the "Dream Ring" a few years ago by combining various recordings together and publishing it. It was not as bad as I thought it might be considering he mixed live and commercial recordings most of which were conducted by different people.
    However it was by necessity limited by the type of recordings he was able to use.
    I've known about the Caniell recordings there in the back-country of the commercial catalog- and have occasionally been tempted to pick a few of them up... but haven't just yet. [Maybe I'll put 'em on my Christmas List.]

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    Here now, we can dispense with those limitations and let the imagination run wild.
    So here we go - the only rule is that all participants must be obtainable (live or not does not matter).

    Siegfried - Lauritz Melchior,has to be undoubtably the greatest in history. (Hans Hopf a distant second)
    Okay...
    Quote Originally Posted by Pip View Post
    Wanderer - Hans Hotter circa 1953-58 - as with Melchior - no contest.
    All right- if you prefer him, I understand. But to say it's no contest [?!]... well, Friedrich Schorr says hello.

    See the more complete treatment in this spot.
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    For parts of the role i love Ben Heppner. Hear him on his Wagner cd and he sings the Siegfried role really well. Whether he can stand the role, or could have in the theatre is another question.

    Lance Ryan on the recent Frankfurt ring cd/dvd sings oddly during Nothung but then impresses later on.

    A very difficult role. Am looking forward to hearing more of Stephen Gould (new Janowski Siegfried). I know he has recorded the role for Thielemann on both of his Ring sets and i quite like his voice. What of Stuart Skelton on the Hamburg Ring conducted by Simone Young. I have her Walkure and Rheingold and enjoy them a lot.

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    For my tastes, it's hard to find a better cast than Barenboim's at Bayreuth in the late '80s -- Jerusalem and Anne Evans as Sigi and Brünnhilde, Graham Clark as Mime, and John Tomlinson as the Wanderer.

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